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Reply #15 - 08/29/18 at 08:30:04

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/29/18 at 08:08:55:

T And T Garage wrote on 08/29/18 at 07:59:51:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/29/18 at 07:18:19:

I don't see that anything was lost. The end isn't known yet. It's not a stupid thing he did. He can't make Kim not be a jakkass.

By just saying "it's not a stupid thing" doesn't make it so.

Our "wonderful" president walked away with nothing. Nada. Zip. kim got us to suspend our war games, got a photo op with a sitting US president and basically gave trump the finger on his way out.

However, it is true that it's not over yet. But given kim's history, do you honestly think he's going to become magnanimous all of a sudden?

Yeah... no.

Why do you want WAR games?
It's a bullying tactic. It's threatening. It's liable to start war.

That's not what war games are at all. It's preparedness training. They happen all over the world, all the time.

No, we lost nothing.
And no missile launches since. - I think you mean, 'yet'.
We gained.- nothing

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Reply #16 - 08/29/18 at 13:58:51

T And T Garage wrote on 08/29/18 at 08:02:24:

I wish I could be as optimistic as you Faffi.

But looking at kim's history, do you really think he's going to suddenly become this great statesman? He knowingly lets his people starve. He's ordered people opposing him to be put to death. He's threatened the US directly.

You can wish, but I don't see it happening.

No, I do not have high hopes, but I believe the chance is less than zero. And due that slim chance, I see no harm trying. In fact, I think it makes sense to try.

I also think it is important not to automatically condemn everything Trump does, but keep an open mind and judge each thing he does separately, even if one - like me - think the overall ability is severely lacking. Just like I have no respect for people who claim Obama did nothing good whatsoever, I cannot respect people who only look for - and see - Trump's bad sides and give no credit to things he does well. One must be able to see actions and results, not just his, ehm, unusual way of communicating.

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Reply #17 - 08/29/18 at 14:20:19

faffi wrote on 08/29/18 at 13:58:51:

T And T Garage wrote on 08/29/18 at 08:02:24:

I wish I could be as optimistic as you Faffi.

But looking at kim's history, do you really think he's going to suddenly become this great statesman? He knowingly lets his people starve. He's ordered people opposing him to be put to death. He's threatened the US directly.

You can wish, but I don't see it happening.

No, I do not have high hopes, but I believe the chance is less than zero. And due that slim chance, I see no harm trying. In fact, I think it makes sense to try.

I agree. But with the posturing that was done and the out and out lies that have been told about what this meeting was going to do. i just don't have much hope.

But yeah, there was a chance. Not sure about that now.

I also think it is important not to automatically condemn everything Trump does, but keep an open mind and judge each thing he does separately, even if one - like me - think the overall ability is severely lacking.

I try, but it's not easy

. I actually haven't given up completely on the trade agreements. From the start, I've said "let's wait and see".

But that's about it. so far - on immigration, the tax breaks, the increased spending have been the leading cause for my continued concern. Not to mention his constant tweeting.

While it's no secret that I think the man is vile and doesn't deserve the office, the things I "complain" about are well documented and not only my opinion.

Just like I have no respect for people who claim Obama did nothing good whatsoever, I cannot respect people who only look for - and see - Trump's bad sides and give no credit to things he does well.

I guess I'm guilty of that - because frankly, I don't see anything to give him credit for that he does well.

One must be able to see actions and results, not just his, ehm, unusual way of communicating.

If you're able to see that, then you must be seeing something I'm not...

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Reply #19 - 09/02/18 at 17:33:40

T And T Garage wrote on 08/29/18 at 08:30:04:

kim got us to suspend our war games, got a photo op with a sitting US president

Let’s see, exactly, WHICH, side of your mouth are you talking out OF ?

One side you say, repeatedly, that Trump is a POS, and NO ONE, in ANY Country, respects him or thinks he is nothing but a POS.
(And your minions repeat the same)

Then, on the OTHER side of your Mouth, you say, that Kim is elevated, because he has ‘photo-oped’ with Trump.

So exactly, WHICH side of your mouth are you taking through ?????????

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Reply #20 - 09/02/18 at 19:38:14

MnSpring wrote on 09/02/18 at 17:33:40:

T And T Garage wrote on 08/29/18 at 08:30:04:

kim got us to suspend our war games, got a photo op with a sitting US president

Let’s see, exactly, WHICH, side of your mouth are you talking out OF ?

I only have one side.

One side you say, repeatedly, that Trump is a POS, and NO ONE, in ANY Country, respects him or thinks he is nothing but a POS.
(And your minions repeat the same)

He is. Thanks for paying attention.

Then, on the OTHER side of your Mouth, you say, that Kim is elevated, because he has ‘photo-oped’ with Trump.

Yeah, because like it or not, trump is the president of the most powerful country on Earth. So, that's kim's motivation.

So exactly, WHICH side of your mouth are you taking through ?????????

I only have one mn. To be clear - trump is an idiot and not worthy of the office of president, but it seems that people like you and kim love him.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Military war games with N.Korea, are back. Reply #21 - 09/02/18 at 23:10:15 t it seems that people like you and kim love him. T R O L L
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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: Military war games with N.Korea, are back. Reply #22 - 09/03/18 at 10:43:31 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/02/18 at 23:10:15: t it seems that people like you and kim love him. T R O L L Yep jog. Name calling always helps. Good going! How very smart of you!
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Military war games with N.Korea, are back. Reply #23 - 09/03/18 at 11:27:38 Conflate Americans with the Korean dictator.. And you aren't a troll? No, that is EXACTLY what you are.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29686 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Military war games with N.Korea, are back. Reply #24 - 09/03/18 at 12:47:14 We were going to have war games,.. then we weren't,... then we are again... I'm sure the off again on again cost several million dollars,.. or more... MAGA...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Military war games with N.Korea, are back. Reply #25 - 09/03/18 at 13:22:02 Why?
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Reply #26 - 09/04/18 at 06:07:02

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/03/18 at 11:27:38:

Conflate Americans with the Korean dictator..
And you aren't a troll?
No, that is EXACTLY what you are.

No, I'm just being honest. trump is at another low point in his presidency. The only ones who thinks he worth anything are kim and his most ardent supporters.

Conflate? Not hardly.

Your actions on the other hand, well, they lend themselves to troll like behaviour.

But yeah, you keep up the name calling. That'll work out great I'm sure.

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Reply #27 - 09/04/18 at 09:10:39

T And T Garage wrote on 09/03/18 at 10:43:31:

Yep jog. Name calling always helps.

Say someone, encountered, ‘observed’, a person, who’s skin was Black.
Then said: “Your Skin is Black’
That is not name calling, it is purely a statement of fact.

So if a person encountered, ‘observed’, posts, of a person that are Troll posts.
Then said: “Your a Troll’
That is not name calling, it is purely a statement of fact.

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Re: Military war games with N.Korea, are back.
Reply #28 - 09/04/18 at 09:22:52

MnSpring wrote on 09/04/18 at 09:10:39:

T And T Garage wrote on 09/03/18 at 10:43:31:

Yep jog. Name calling always helps.

Say someone, encountered, ‘observed’, a person, who’s skin was Black.
Then said: “Your Skin is Black’

Who in their right mind would say that to someone in the first place mn? I think you're just trying to be silly.

That is not name calling, it is purely a statement of fact.

Again, why state an obvious fact for no reason. You don't just walk up to someone and tell them the obvious... Well, maybe you do. But that's not normal.

So if a person encountered, ‘observed’, posts, of a person that are Troll posts.
Then said: “Your a Troll’
That is not name calling, it is purely a statement of fact.

No, it's name calling, because I'm not a troll. I'm a human being. Trolls are mythical characters. There are no such things as trolls mn. Don't you know that?

Do you believe in other mythical creatures? That actually might explain a lot. Now, I'm not making fun of you, I'm merely asking you. Please, don't become defensive.

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