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08/28/18 at 20:25:56
 
I've been waiting for the lefties to start screaming about gun control, but maybe since the lunatic really was a lunatic and a lefty, but I repeat myself, maybe that's why no drumbeat for gun control after the goofball gamer shot up the tournament and offed himself.
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Reply #1 - 08/28/18 at 21:00:07
 
Well jog, what do you want?  How many times do "us crazy lefties" have to call out that there's a problem?  You can't see it?

But to be clear - it's not about lefties or righties.  It's about people having access to guns when they shouldn't.  This kid didn't kill because he was a lefty.  He killed because he was deranged.

Every poll shows that the majority of the country favors common sense gun control.  NOT BANNING.

But there is no conversation about it because our Congress is bought and paid for by the nra.

Well, maybe that's not fair.  They're not totally bought by the nra - there's big oil, big banks and big pharma too.

So, what is there to debate?  Easier access to guns?  Free guns to everyone?  Arm everyone in the country ages 4 and up?

Maybe we should take a look and ask ourselves about the path that we're on currently - how's that working out?
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Reply #2 - 08/28/18 at 21:35:00
 
Every poll shows that the majority of the country favors common sense gun control.  NOT BANNING.

But ther

Define
Common Sense gun control
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Reply #3 - 08/29/18 at 02:24:52
 
What do they mean by "common sense"?
Great buzz word for the masses just like "four legs good, two legs bad", but we have back ground checks, waiting periods, restrictions on some people getting guns.

Looks like the system had failed in enforcing it's rules.
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Reply #4 - 08/29/18 at 07:24:22
 
What do they mean by "common sense

I've been trying to get that answer for a long time.
The problem is, nothing is perfect. He's been institutionalized and drugged, but still was able to get a gun.
It's not a good thing to be in a room with a pissed off goofball when he's the
Only Armed Person in that room.
Answer
More Guns.
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Reply #5 - 08/29/18 at 08:30:35
 
Wondering if that person, had a bunch of, ‘Participation’, Trophies.

Seems that he never learned, their were winners and looses in a game.
Who  would have taught him that, a, Righty or a Lefty ?
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Reply #6 - 08/29/18 at 08:31:31
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/29/18 at 08:30:35:
Wondering if that person, had a bunch of, ‘Participation’, Trophies.

Seems that he never learned, their were winners and looses in a game.
Who  would have taught him that, a, Righty or a Lefty ?



He was deranged.  It's that simple.
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Reply #7 - 08/29/18 at 08:35:22
 
T And T Garage wrote on 08/28/18 at 21:00:07:
Maybe we should take a look and ask ourselves about the path that we're on currently - how's that working out?


So one of the most Highly Regulated States, and one of the most Highly Relegated City's.
Perhaps they:
"...should take a look and ask ourselves about the path that we're on currently - how's that working out?..."

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #8 - 08/29/18 at 08:44:46
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/29/18 at 08:35:22:
T And T Garage wrote on 08/28/18 at 21:00:07:
Maybe we should take a look and ask ourselves about the path that we're on currently - how's that working out?


So one of the most Highly Regulated States, and one of the most Highly Relegated City's.
Perhaps they:
"...should take a look and ask ourselves about the path that we're on currently - how's that working out?..."

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You may want to look at the states that border Illinois.  More specifically, that are within arm's reach of Chicago.

Do you think the guns come from Illinois?  Surely you can't think that mn.  Anyone in Illinois can go to Indiana (25 min car ride from Chicago) and go to a gun show and buy a gun from a private dealer with no background check.

In Michigan (just a 1.5 hr ride) and Iowa (just 2.5 hrs away from Chicago) the laws are even less stringent.

So yeah mn, there are lots of guns in Illinois - but the ones used for most of the crimes are obtained illegally - or by questionable means in nearby states.


Hey, you know what else is funny?  There are laws against speeding on the highway, stealing and murder.  Those get broken all the time too!!

Hilarious, huh????
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Reply #9 - 08/29/18 at 12:35:43
 
T And T Garage wrote on 08/29/18 at 08:44:46:
    Hilarious, huh????  

Yea it is.
Because you have been told over, and over, and over, and over,
by me, and many others.
That Chicago’s Crime problem, is  NOT other States faults.

Yet you continue to repeat the Lies,
YOU ARE TOLD To Repeat.

That Chicago’s Crime problem, is other States faults.

And  the most, “…Hilarious,…” part,
Is when you chide someone for assigning blame,
to someone/something else.
When YOU, blame, someone/something else,
for Chicago's Crime problem.

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Reply #10 - 08/29/18 at 12:42:41
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/29/18 at 12:35:43:
T And T Garage wrote on 08/29/18 at 08:44:46:
    Hilarious, huh????  

Yea it is.
Because you have been told over, and over, and over, and over,
by me, and many others.
That Chicago’s Crime problem, is  NOT other States faults.

I'm not saying it is.  But you're saying that the gun laws here don't help and I'm simply saying why they don't.

Yet you continue to repeat the Lies,
YOU ARE TOLD To Repeat.

That Chicago’s Crime problem, is other States faults.

No, the easy access to guns in neighboring states is the problem.

And  the most, “…Hilarious,…” part,
Is when you chide someone for assigning blame,
to someone/something else.
When YOU, blame, someone/something else,
for Chicago's Crime problem.

Again, I'm not blaming other states for our problems.  I'm saying that they reason our gun laws are ineffective is that neighboring states make it easy to get them.

How can we expect the laws to work if only one state (effectively) has them?


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Reply #11 - 08/29/18 at 15:36:34
 
all the laws ever enacted only affect the honest and the sane

note: I didn't say protect
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Reply #12 - 08/29/18 at 16:28:55
 
T And T Garage wrote on 08/29/18 at 08:31:31:
MnSpring wrote on 08/29/18 at 08:30:35:
Wondering if that person, had a bunch of, ‘Participation’, Trophies.

Seems that he never learned, their were winners and looses in a game.
Who  would have taught him that, a, Righty or a Lefty ?



He was deranged.  It's that simple.
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Yep,
And the only armed person in the room.
Idiots and evil people who are determined to get a gun are demonstrating they often can.
Good Guys with guns are really handy when that happens.
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Reply #13 - 08/29/18 at 17:11:08
 
thumperclone wrote on 08/29/18 at 15:36:34:
all the laws ever enacted only affect the honest and the sane - note: I didn't say protect


“…all the laws ever enacted only affect the honest and the sane…”
I would say that is true.
The Honest & Sane follow the Law, (whatever law it is)

The Dishonest, Insane, etc, etc, etc,
Do Not follow the laws, so they just do whatever they want,
(because they don’t follow Laws !)

“… note: I didn’t say protect …”  
Again, correct,  in the case of, ‘Gun Laws’.
Again, “…only affect the honest and the sane…”.
So a Dishonest and Insane, person,
Can shoot whoever they want,
Because, they do NOT  follow the Laws.

And the Honest & Sane person, following the, Law,
is NOT able to protect themselves with a firearm.
from the Dishonest and Insane, person.

(Oh Wait, they can use a pen and a clipboard)

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Reply #14 - 08/29/18 at 17:22:50
 
T And T Garage wrote on 08/29/18 at 12:42:41:
"...How can we expect the laws to work if only one state (effectively) has them?

So you say, out of one side of your mouth:
“…No, the easy access to guns in neighboring states is the problem…”

Then the Other side of you mouth:
“… I’m not blaming other states for our problems..”

Which side of your mouth, are you talking through ?


Then the “Beauty Part”.
“…How can we expect the laws to work if only one state (effectively) has them?…”
So clearly, ALL  States, should have ‘Exactly the Same’, draconian Gun Control laws as IL  does.
THEN, the IL, totally Failed, ‘Gun Control’, system would work.

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