For the life of me, I can't understand why this kind of rhetoric is OK from our president:

Washington (AFP) - US President Donald Trump warned evangelical leaders that if Republicans lose control of Congress in the midterm elections, Democrats will institute change "quickly and violently," The New York Times has reported.

At a meeting with those leaders at the White House on Monday, Trump said everything was at stake for his conservative agenda if his party loses in November, according to an audiotape of the meeting obtained by the Times.

Democrats "will overturn everything that we've done and they'll do it quickly and violently," Trump said, according to the Times report published Tuesday night.

"They will end everything immediately."

"When you look at Antifa," he added, referring to militant leftist anti-fascism groups, "and you look at some of these groups, these are violent people."

The Times said a White House spokesman, Hogan Gidley, declined to expand on what the president meant.

It was not the first time Trump has warned of violence if things did not go his way.

During the 2016 presidential campaign, he said his supporters would probably react violently if he did not win the Republican nomination.

"I think you'd have riots," Trump warned.

The Times said reporters were allowed to listen in on brief comments by Trump during the Monday meeting with ministers and pastors, and heard him talk about abortion, religious freedom and youth unemployment.

But after the press was shown out of the room, Trump changed the subject and suggested how the evangelical leaders could help Republicans win in November, the Times reported.

"I just ask you to go out and make sure all of your people vote," Trump said.

"Because if they don't -- it's Nov. 6 -- if they don't vote we're going to have a miserable two years and we're going to have, frankly, a very hard period of time because then it just gets to be one election -- you're one election away from losing everything you've got."

Shame on you - you ignoramos of a man, trump.

Shame on your supporters that might think this is OK coming from you.

What the he!! is wrong with people???

faffi wrote on 08/29/18 at 14:14:21:


And honestly Faffi - I almost wish that there was at least one redeeming quality that I could somehow attach hope.  But I just don't see it.

I've said this before - if someone wants to debate republican policy - more power to them.  There's a lot lacking on the dem side and the repub side and I'll be the first to acknowledge that.  There's a need for two parties to keep each other in check.

But this man has no regard for that.  In many of his speeches, he uses the term "me" or "I".  As in "I alone can fix it".  He only thinks of himself - and when he's off prompter, it shows.

There's no real debate when it comes to the man that trump is.  IMHO

faffi wrote on 08/29/18 at 14:57:41:

I will try to explain more in detail why I wrote what I did.

There is no reason IMO why a Christian cannot follow a Muslim or an Atheist or anyone else provided they have a basic respect for the Christian values.



To me, Trump is failing on a number of issues here. He is a habitual liar. He desire women of his next. He pays for sex. He at least verbally appear to sexually harass women. He is primarily concerned about power to himself as well as monetary gains. He stands for exclusion/segregation instead of inclusion. He stands for USA first and care little about the rest of the world. He is judgmental towards particular regions, religions and races.

None of these are, the way I - as a non-religious person - understand it, according to what Jesus learned us.

faffi wrote on 08/30/18 at 05:30:55:



Once again, well put Faffi.

To me, Trump is failing on a number of issues here. He is a habitual liar. He desire women of his next. He pays for sex. He at least verbally appear to sexually harass women. He is primarily concerned about power to himself as well as monetary gains. He stands for exclusion/segregation instead of inclusion. He stands for USA first and care little about the rest of the world. He is judgmental towards particular regions, religions and races.

None of these are, the way I - as a non-religious person - understand it, according to what Jesus learned us.

As I've said before, I didn't hire Trump to be Minister to the moral compass of the USA. That certainly was a factor in all other Presidents up to this point for sure. Trump may have changed that forever.

WebsterMark wrote on 08/30/18 at 06:11:53:



So why did you hire him? For purely egotistical purposes, or for some other reasons?

faffi wrote on 08/30/18 at 07:07:13:


1) He was not Hilary whom I viewed as someone who would be an awful President.

2) I figured (correctly as it turns out) business would view him as a friendly figure in the White House and not an enemy as they viewed Obama who I don't believe understood what makes American special.

3) I decided I wanted a fight. I wanted an opening salvo in the cultural Civil War between leftist and historical Americans (Historical Americans includes both Democrats and Republicans who have a historical view on what makes America great)

4) I worked for a Donald Trump type CEO who, while annoying as all get out, was very successful. So I wasn't scared of him. I figured it was time to try a non-politician.

5) Finally, Trump was essentially a 3rd party candidate. He forced the Republican party to come to him because the People demanded the Party do that. I think in the long run, that's a good thing. Not sure who the Democratic candidate will be, but if it's an outsider, (Mark Cuban for example) they owe that opportunity to Trump's success.