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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	No Soup For You! 08/30/18 at 15:14:52 http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-cancels-pay-raise-due-174828322.html Because, well, we're broke... but yay capitalism and a trillion dollar tax break for corporations and the richest!! But yeah, these are civilian government jobs - who cares, right?
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 10589 Minn Gender:	Re: No Soup For You! Reply #1 - 08/30/18 at 15:51:09 LOLOLOOL A-Yep, another story by a TDS, 'news', reporter. Which is LACKING, the, 'Rest Of The Story', (aka P.Harvey) So it can be SPUN.
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Reply #2 - 08/30/18 at 16:00:54

MnSpring wrote on 08/30/18 at 15:51:09:

LOLOLOOL
A-Yep, another story by a TDS, 'news', reporter.
Which is LACKING, the,
'Rest Of The Story', (aka P.Harvey)
So it can be SPUN.

Do you think I'm making this up? Did you even read the story?

Please, if there's more to this story, enlighten us with it.

Am I in error about the tax break?

Are these not civilian government jobs that are affected?

Again, if there's a error, please point it out.

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9914	Re: No Soup For You! Reply #3 - 08/30/18 at 16:46:01 What is the rest of the story? The article seems to point out what's happening, where is the spin? Is Trump not cutting wages?
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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: No Soup For You! Reply #4 - 08/30/18 at 16:57:20 Eegore wrote on 08/30/18 at 16:46:01: What is the rest of the story? The article seems to point out what's happening, where is the spin? Is Trump not cutting wages? Good questions... gee, I wonder if mn will answer them?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: No Soup For You! Reply #5 - 08/31/18 at 04:19:02 I read it. Not one word about what they are paid now.
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Reply #6 - 08/31/18 at 05:05:47

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/31/18 at 04:19:02:

I read it.
Not one word about what they are paid now.

Not sure what difference that makes. I'm just showing that had this administration not given a huge tax break to the top & corporations, then maybe this COLA would have went through.

But there seems to be no concern to lower echelon workers.

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Reply #7 - 08/31/18 at 05:36:22

Pay grades are on multiple scales, some are direct salary and some hourly. Most are calculated by averaging similar jobs and pay rates in their respective region thus the "locality" pay.

A job that pays $15 an hour in AL will pay $25 in NY due to locality pay. That is an estimate not a researched and verified number, the $15-$25 is for numeric exemplification only and not to be considered a fact or proof of payment schedules or grades.

Since most locality pay is averaged among jobs in the area if the GS pay schedule employees are overpaid, then so are all people in that job category within that locality.

Most pay schedules can be looked up here:

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/

Just average out all of the numbers in your locality then contact your state labor dept. for their numbers so you can cross-reference the pay amounts.

I am still interested in what part of the posted articles is spin or otherwise duplicitous. Are pay cuts not happening?

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Reply #8 - 08/31/18 at 07:09:16

Eegore wrote on 08/31/18 at 05:36:22:

"... I am still interested in what part of the posted articles is spin or otherwise duplicitous. Are not happening?

I would expect tt to not know or understand the difference between
a, 'pay cut', and 'less of a raise'.

A, 'raise' of 2.1%, will be moved, (most probably) to 1.9%.
That is NOT, "...pay cuts ...". That is less of a, Raise.

(For the panty in a bunch people)
You make 15.00 a hour, then your boss said: 'I am now going to pay you 14.75 a hour". That would be a 'Pay cut'.
If you make 15.00 a hour, and your boss says, last year you got a 35 cent per hour RAISE, this year i am giving you a 26 cent per hour RAISE.
That would NOT be a, 'Pay-Cut'.

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Reply #9 - 08/31/18 at 07:15:15

MnSpring, your new phrase is 'TDS' but you reply to the question with the equivalent of 'fake news'. Do you see the irony?

and another one you say "I would expect tt to not know or understand the difference between
a, 'pay cut', and 'less of a raise'."

Do you know the difference between 'less of a pay rise' and a 'pay freeze'? Or the cancellation of pay rises already due. Well of course you do but It didn't happen did it it's wait for it... 'fake news'

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-trump-freeze-pay-federal-wo...

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Reply #10 - 08/31/18 at 07:45:48

MnSpring wrote on 08/31/18 at 07:09:16:

Eegore wrote on 08/31/18 at 05:36:22:

"... I am still interested in what part of the posted articles is spin or otherwise duplicitous. Are not happening?

I would expect tt to not know or understand the difference between
a, 'pay cut', and 'less of a raise'.

Well mn, please show me where I said anything about a cut.

I'll wait.

A, 'raise' of 2.1%, will be moved, (most probably) to 1.9%.
That is NOT, "...pay cuts ...". That is less of a, Raise.

(For the panty in a bunch people)
You make 15.00 a hour, then your boss said: 'I am now going to pay you 14.75 a hour". That would be a 'Pay cut'.
If you make 15.00 a hour, and your boss says, last year you got a 35 cent per hour RAISE, this year i am giving you a 26 cent per hour RAISE.
That would NOT be a, 'Pay-Cut'.

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Reply #11 - 08/31/18 at 09:17:06

Right, I am using a term that does not exist in the article : "pay cut" and it is a lowering of potential income not a cut.

However it was not my statement, but the article itself that was labeled as "lacking the rest of the story" indicating the article and not my post is incorrect, duplicitous or otherwise incorrect.

What in the article is missing, duplicitous or incorrect?

In the article specifically.

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MShipley Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 681	Re: No Soup For You! Reply #12 - 08/31/18 at 10:07:23 All seems good to me: For a change this President decided to give the taxpayer a raise instead of the other way around. Just another I hate Trump thread.
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Reply #13 - 08/31/18 at 12:27:17

MShipley wrote on 08/31/18 at 10:07:23:

All seems good to me:

For a change this President decided to give the taxpayer a raise instead of the other way around.

A smaller raise that doesn't isn't even COLA. He cut their raise.

Just another I hate Trump thread.

Well, read it as you like, the fact remains he cut their raise. But I'm sure if Obama did that, you'd of had the same reaction.

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9914	Re: No Soup For You! Reply #14 - 08/31/18 at 14:15:33 GS workers pay taxes, they are still civilians.
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