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WebsterMark wrote on 09/05/18 at 05:59:13:If you base your good and bad purely on party
A good side road to go down.
Why stick with party vs person?
Well, for one thing, party ideology is slower to change. On the whole, I think change should be a long, slow agonizing process. Otherwise, you easily fall into the shinny nickel trap where you chase flashy ideas with no substance behind them.
Well, I hate to break this to you, but that's pretty much what trump was. A shiny nickel that turned out to be toxic. He was supposed to be a "breath of fresh air" - instead, he's just signing everything the establishment republicans put in front of him. He's done nothing for the middle class that he'd promised to do. And let's not forget the scandal...
Conservative ideology and liberal ideology are pretty clearly defined for most major issues. Smaller government vs larger government, personal responsibility vs corporate responsibility, pro-life vs pro-choice.
Yes, but as a whole, the liberal side of policy has given the US some pretty important things like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, disability, women's rights (to vote, to choose), etc. That's why things like Medicare for all poll in the 60+ percent. We as a country lean left socially and are pretty much dead center fiscally.
Since McCain's a hot topic now, the idea of him being President with a Democratic Vice President was ridiculous. The VP is already something of a figurehead as it is now. Having one from the opposite party would further relegate him to attending funerals and more useless committees designed to keep him busy like Gore's 'reinvent government' debacle.
Not sure what to think about that - doesn't sound like a good idea having a VP from a different party - the appointment process alone would sink it.
Also, following ideology vs person helps decide key issues that are more in the grey area. I'm against the death penalty in ALL circumstances. I don't believe the State has the right to take someone's life just like I don't believe a woman has the right to kill her unborn baby. Then your party is not of your view. The conservatives support a death penalty. This is what I'm talking about. There are things about the democrats that I don't support - most of it's on the establishment side. However, there are some things that I support on the conservative side - balancing the budget, means testing for welfare, common core, and a few other things (but on a more limited basis that their official position).
As I said, I would have voted for Kasich over hillary in a heartbeat. I was never a "Bernie or bust" guy either. I have never - and will never - vote straight ticket. I take my time in the booth and do my research ahead of time. I voted for rauner for governor (my mistake admittedly), and have in the past voted for a republican alderman.
IMHO to voting party over policy is why we are so divided as a country today. No one party is 100% right.
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