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Yep, the UL's are at it again.
09/08/18 at 13:29:38
 
Yep, the UL's are at it again.
PAYING  someone to Say,
what they are told to say !

Never heard of anybody, PAYING, conservatives, to say something.

Yet it is VERY  COMMON, for the UL’s & Progressive to PAY Someone.
To Say What They Are TOLD to Say.

Here is just a recent posting:
"STUDENT ORGANIZERS – Protect Minnesota is seeking high school students age 16 and older who care passionately about preventing gun violence to serve as student organizers and media spokespersons for the Westside Rally Against Gun Violence on Saturday, October 6, in Excelsior MN. Must be highly articulate, comfortable speaking in front of crowds, well-informed about the issue of gun violence, have a significant social media following, and able to start immediately. $12/hour for up to six hours per week through October 6, 2018. Preference will be given to those who have been active in the student gun violence prevention movement.  For application, click HERE."

(Gee where is Bernie, isn’t it suppose to be, 15.00 a hour ???)
https://protectmn.org/
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Reply #1 - 09/08/18 at 14:35:03
 
 Why does it matter what other people do with their money?

 This looks similar to lobbying, you pay someone else to assist in getting your agenda into elections.
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Reply #2 - 09/08/18 at 14:45:50
 
It's the difference between actual people, out there, demonstrating their ideas, versus fake.
Grassroots versus astroturf.

Lobbyists have to register As lobbyists.
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Reply #3 - 09/08/18 at 17:23:12
 
 In CO if you are paid you have to wear a badge.  When the Colorado independent health plan had people in front of Wal-Mart asking if you wanted free healthcare and to sign a petition they had to wear a badge indicating they were compensated.

"who care passionately about preventing gun violence"  

 I'm pretty sure its hard to disprove that part of the requirement, so are they lying or are they just paying people to speak out for something they already believe in?  

 What I can say is that any group who is against changing any current gun laws better get on board with social media, youth programs and get involved or they are going to lose the battle.  

 Personally I notice the typical pattern is that things like this are only important if it's the opposition.  
 
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Reply #4 - 09/08/18 at 19:28:47
 
Start pushing for gun control and you BECOME the opposition.
If a democrat woke up from a coma and went to work trying to stop abortion,he's now
The Opposition..

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Reply #5 - 09/08/18 at 20:35:05
 

 But to gun control advocates You are the opposition.

 No matter how much of the Constitution you bring up you are still the opposition to them.  

 If a criminal enjoys murdering children and you try to stop him, you are the opposition.  Right or wrong doesn't apply, just who is trying to get what done.
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Reply #6 - 09/08/18 at 20:38:38
 
Personally I notice the typical pattern is that things like this are only important if it's the opposition.

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Reply #7 - 09/09/18 at 07:04:05
 
 That's why organizations like shelters, sex offender registries, SANE kit backlogs etc. have little funding.  They need help but since they aren't a threat people aren't in any rush to be involved.  

 Until a family member is assaulted then its a big deal that the DNA can't be analyzed for years due to backlog.  Also its difficult to criticize one's own support groups.  
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Reply #8 - 09/09/18 at 08:29:10
 
yea the ur has never ever done such a thing
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Reply #9 - 09/09/18 at 10:00:16
 
Gosh, ya think the Goal, is to NOT,
Save Lives,
But to BAN GUNS ???????????

1%, of teachers, in Minn,  are NOT  Qualified to Teach.
What %,  of the same students are subject to gun violence,
In MN, and in the US ??????  (Not even a 10th of one %)
Well over 9% of 16-19 are Killed by driving and Texting.

Don’t ya think, the students should be. ‘protesting’, That ?
Don’t you think, they should be protesting, ’Texting while Driving’ ?
Don’t you think, they should be protesting, ‘unqualified Teachers’ ?


(2017-2018)
Teachers-Full Time Equivalent (FTE)       57,262
Pre-Kindergarten & School Readiness       2,057
Kindergarten       3,363
Elementary (grades 1 through 6)       25,034
Secondary (grades 7 through 12)       21,918
Other/Un-Graded       4,320
Special Education       10,254
Average Years of Teaching Experience-statewide       14  (Minn)
New Teachers FTE (newly licensed & first teaching assignment)       2,229


“…scolded more than 70 superintendents about their failure to address teacher licensing violations….”
“…  the department will threaten to withhold state funds from districts that fail to correct licensing violations in a timely manner…”
“…Star Tribune investigation revealed how state officials have routinely ignored teacher licensing violations in recent years….”
“…more than 900 teachers violated rules aimed at making sure children get proper educations, including 62 who worked with no license at all, according to the newspaper’s analysis of state education records….”
“…repeat offenders remain a problem, …”
“…licensing is directly overseen by the state Board of Teaching, which regulates more than 50,000 working teachers. Typically, fewer than 1 percent of those teachers violate the rules in any given year….”


All these come from the most  UL  newspaper in Minn.
Which is nicknamed the, ‘Red Star”.
http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-will-crack-down-on-teacher-licensing-vio...

So here is the point, 1%, of teachers are NOT  Qualified to Teach.
What %,  of the same students are subject to gun violence,
In MN, and in the US ??????

Don’t ya think, the students should be. ‘protesting’, That ?
Don’t you think, they should be protesting, ’Texting while Driving’ ?

Now, their are about 50 Million  K-12 students in the US.
And about 138 killed by a firearm on campus/school, and that included teachers, which are not students.

(NOW for the Panty in a bunch people)
That is NOT, people in their home, in neighborhoods, killed by drive buys, gang related, drug selling, or by suicide.
Here is a interesting sight, one the UL  loves:
https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/mar/16/blog-posting/fac...
And they say, the ‘protests’, (which have been proven to be PAID for)  are false, when they referred to 7,000 since 2012.

Also: “…9% of drivers between the ages of 15-19 involved in fatal crashes were distracted at the time of the accident. Just under 3,500 people were killed in distracted driving accidents in 2015, and another 391,000 were injured….”)
(Say that  again,  9%  of only 28%, of the ‘kids’, are Killed by Texting)
https://www.teensafe.com/blog/teens-texting-and-driving-facts-and-statistics/

Gosh, ya think the Goal, is to NOT,
Save Lives,
But to BAN GUNS ???????????

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Reply #10 - 09/09/18 at 10:18:35
 
Eegore wrote on 09/08/18 at 14:35:03:
 Why does it matter what other people do with their money?

Someone want’s to shop at  Dic ks, buy Nikes/Livi.
(Or buy a $7.00 cup of coffee)
Not my problem, they can do what they want.

“…This looks similar to lobbying, you pay someone else to assist in getting your agenda into elections….”

Being a paid lobbyist, and registered as such. Giving the POV of the company that hires you, to a already elected represented person, their POV.

Is Quite Different,
than the PAYING People,  for a, ’Spontaneous’  ‘Protest’.
Which only LOOKS like one, but is not, because most are, PAID, to say just what they are TOLD to say.
That is well rehearsed, for the sole propose, of garnering Free TV  advertising,
to sway a opinion,
by giving FALSE, information to people.

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #11 - 09/10/18 at 07:30:07
 
Conservative PAC Ad Features Concerned Mom, Fails to Disclose She’s a GOP Official
Alana Roethle, a mother of four, fearfully expresses concerns about a Kansas Democratic congressional candidate in a new ad. But what she doesn’t say? She’s a GOP official.
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Reply #12 - 09/10/18 at 10:06:41
 
And?

Do you think that's wrong?

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Reply #13 - 09/10/18 at 10:38:09
 

 I don't think its wrong, but its similar to the original complaint.  Paid to represent ideals you agree with without full disclosure of the method or your personal background.
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Reply #14 - 09/10/18 at 13:57:42
 
Appearing in a
Political Ad
Is the same as being a paid protester?
Who do you expect to see in political ads?

Protesters, historically, got there and protested because they were determined to do it.
People in a political ad?
Really?
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