No one forgot about the warm medieval period:

WebsterMark wrote on 09/10/18 at 10:11:13:


This planet is warming at an alarming rate.  Key word - RATE.  Historically, there has never been a rate of change like the one we're seeing now.  That's what's so alarming.

It's not the 11 (or so) year solar cycle, it's not volcanic activity.  It's us.

If human prosperity is so great, then why is there a plastic island in the ocean that's 3 times the size of France?

Progress my a$$.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/10/18 at 10:20:34:



No jog - you pay attention.

RATE
OF
CHANGE

End of story.  Deny what you want.  Facts don't care.

 Here's an example:

 Treelines are advancing.  Theres more trees, more growth which means they are thriving under the current CO-2 volumes PPM in their regions.  Global warming is bull, look at the treelines.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1461-0248.2009.01355.x

 The full article clearly states: A global meta‐analysis of treeline response to climate warming.

 Global warming is causing treeline increase in areas with long-term warmer winters.  "Treelines that experienced strong winter warming were more likely to have advanced, and treelines with a diffuse form were more likely to have advanced than those with an abrupt or krummholz form. Diffuse treelines may be more responsive to warming because they are more strongly growth limited, whereas other treeline forms may be subject to additional constraints"

 So is global warming bull?  The same article depending on if we actually read it or not can show both yes or no.

global warming, pollution, air quality are all different. They are not necessarily manifested from a single source.

no one really disputes global warming. Again, a very short 15,000 years ago, the great lakes were sill unformed by the glaciers that retreated. the question is warming contributed by man, particularly the portion attributed to CO2 from fossil fuel burning. that has to be still an ongoing debate since the reality has never matched predictions. Look at it this way, if Trump predicted a 3% unemployment rate or a 6% GDP growth and it did not occur, would you still be insisting in would occur next year? Of course not. Your religion is man-made global warming.

And citing a ridiculous claim like a plastic island three times the size of France is the equivalent of The Population Bomb or Chicken Little. Not sure which is sillier.

WebsterMark wrote on 09/10/18 at 10:57:34:


Just because you say it, doesn't make it true.  Again, you have zero idea what I do (I might be a scientist).  However, you have said in the past that you are a salesman.

Therefore, it is within the realm of reason that I question your knowledge when you say:
"I can promise you with absolute certainty, I know far more about air quality and human health than you can read in a couple articles. "

I remember years ago, listening to Rush, he stated that GW would be the new religion of the left.
Like zealous Christians, standing on a street corner, with signs, bullhorn, and flinging accusations at passersby, acting much like those leftist who march our streets destroying property, physically encountering anyone who would challenge them, etc....
They claim DEATH, HELL, darnATION,unless you repent and change your ways....

This is the GW'ing arguments of these zealots who put all their stock on a belief that can not be proven, much like MY FAITH, in God.....
That can not be proven to those who just don't want to believe by faith....

I get it, these folks believe all is doomed unless we all adopt their beliefs,  etc....

Like the Christian on the corner, they think THEIR actions are just, and of a saving nature, to those IGNORANT to the TRUTH.

You guys carry on, but you might as well just beat your head against the wall, if you think any of this activity will change anything    

WebsterMark wrote on 09/10/18 at 11:45:19:


I (and these folks) beg to differ:


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/03/great-pacific-garbage-patch-plasti...