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Reply #15 - 09/12/18 at 07:54:17
 
List of organizations designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center as hate groups

   1 Types of groups
       1.1 Organized hate
           1.1.1 Ku Klux Klan
           1.1.2 Neo-Nazi
           1.1.3 White separatist/nationalist
           1.1.4 Racist skinheads
           1.1.5 Anti-government movement
           1.1.6 Black separatist/nationalist
           1.1.7 Neo-Confederate
           1.1.8 Christian Identity
       1.2 General hate
           1.2.1 Anti-LGBT
           1.2.2 Anti-immigrant
           1.2.3 Holocaust denial
           1.2.4 Male supremacy
           1.2.5 Neo-Volkisch
           1.2.6 Racist music/hate music
           1.2.7 Radical traditional Catholicism
           1.2.8 Anti-Muslim
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Reply #16 - 09/12/18 at 08:22:44
 

 That's a drop in the bucket:

"The Southern Poverty Law Center documented 954 active hate groups in the United States in 2017."  - SPLC

 Other sources:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/740008/us-hate-groups-by-type/
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Reply #17 - 09/12/18 at 08:25:43
 
The SPLC is not the definitive voice on this topic but regardless, if you wanna match violence for violence, you’ll lose. However, I’ve gone down this road before. You’ll deny association with multiple groups but demand that conservatives are closely aligned with anyone you want to assign to them. You’ll refuse to include antifa or police killers on your side but you’ll lump Tim McVey on my side. The guy who shot up the Congressional baseball game will be mentally unstable but Gabby Giffords shooter will count towards me. That’s the only way you can keep this game close.
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Reply #18 - 09/12/18 at 08:27:43
 
Eegore wrote on 09/12/18 at 08:22:44:
 That's a drop in the bucket:

"The Southern Poverty Law Center documented 954 active hate groups in the United States in 2017."  - SPLC

 Other sources:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/740008/us-hate-groups-by-type/


Is Black Lives Matter on that list?
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Reply #19 - 09/12/18 at 09:03:16
 
"The SPLC is not the definitive voice on this topic but regardless, if you wanna match violence for violence, you’ll lose. However, I’ve gone down this road before. You’ll deny association with multiple groups but demand that conservatives are closely aligned with anyone you want to assign to them. You’ll refuse to include antifa or police killers on your side but you’ll lump Tim McVey on my side. The guy who shot up the Congressional baseball game will be mentally unstable but Gabby Giffords shooter will count towards me. That’s the only way you can keep this game close. "
 
 I agree.  Comparative violence is a waste of time typically, but its easier than working for a solution, and I feel better if I make someone else out to be a villain instead of working on improving myself and my community.

"Is Black Lives Matter on that list? "

 No.
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Reply #20 - 09/12/18 at 10:02:22
 
WebsterMark wrote on 09/12/18 at 07:05:58:
Missed the knife attack in that one.....
Besides, if want a tit-for-tat conservative vs liberal violence contest, liberals would win hands down. Libs are always protesting or beating somebody up.


No mark, you wouldn't.
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Reply #21 - 09/12/18 at 10:46:45
 
Just one story of many, I’d win by a mile. Not even close.

Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) and her staffers are facing taunts and threats over Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, including a rape threat, reports the New York Times.
Buried under no fewer than ten paragraphs and the anodyne headline, “Interest Groups Turn Up Pressure on Senators Before Kavanaugh Vote,” the far-left New York Times finally gets to the meat of the story with the news that Collins and her staffers are facing “threats” and “vulgar language” from the left-wing Resistance, all of this in the hope of intimidating Collins to vote against Kavanaugh’s confirmation.

“The [left’s] frustration has boiled over at points,” the Times understates. “Annie Clark, a spokeswoman for Ms. Collins, provided The New York Times with copies of a letter and multiple voice mail messages addressed to the senator using vulgar language and outright threats.”



One example of a threat is a “caller [who] told a 25-year-old female staff member at one of Ms. Collins’s Maine offices that he hoped she would be raped and impregnated.”

Collins has also had some 3,000 coat hangers mailed to her office (a reference to the back alley abortion).

Protesters have shown up at Collins’ private home in Bangor.
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Reply #22 - 09/12/18 at 12:32:38
 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/14/doxxing-assault-death-threats-th...

After the latest hate crime in Portland, Oregon — in which white supremacist Jeremy Christian killed Ricky Best and Taliesin Namkai-Meche on a train after they attempted to stop him from berating two Muslim women — three people have been killed by white terrorists in the last week. The other hate crime-related murder happened at the University of Maryland, when 23-year-old Richard Collins III was stabbed to death by Sean Urbanski. Collins was just commissioned as a lieutenant in the United States Army.

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May 2017. During that time, the article points out, Richard Collins — a newly-commissioned U.S. Army Lieutenant and a black man — was stabbed to death on the campus of the University of Maryland.  Sean Urbanski, who is white, is charged with his murder. Police say Urbanski approached Collins and his friends with a knife and shouted: “Step left, step left, if you know what’s good for you!”

When Collins said “No”, Urbanski reportedly stabbed him in the chest.

University of Maryland Police Chief David Mitchell said Urbanski was a member of the “Alt-Reich” Facebook group, which he described as “despicable” and said exhibited “extreme bias against women, Latinos, members of the Jewish faith and especially, African-Americans.”


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Reply #23 - 09/12/18 at 12:35:20
 
WebsterMark wrote on 09/12/18 at 10:46:45:
Just one story of many, I’d win by a mile. Not even close.

Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) and her staffers are facing taunts and threats over Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, including a rape threat, reports the New York Times.
Buried under no fewer than ten paragraphs and the anodyne headline, “Interest Groups Turn Up Pressure on Senators Before Kavanaugh Vote,” the far-left New York Times finally gets to the meat of the story with the news that Collins and her staffers are facing “threats” and “vulgar language” from the left-wing Resistance, all of this in the hope of intimidating Collins to vote against Kavanaugh’s confirmation.

“The [left’s] frustration has boiled over at points,” the Times understates. “Annie Clark, a spokeswoman for Ms. Collins, provided The New York Times with copies of a letter and multiple voice mail messages addressed to the senator using vulgar language and outright threats.”

This does not represent all the democrats.  Does that nazi in Illinois represent all republicans?  Of course not.

One example of a threat is a “caller [who] told a 25-year-old female staff member at one of Ms. Collins’s Maine offices that he hoped she would be raped and impregnated.”

Not cool, but not even close to "all of the left".

Collins has also had some 3,000 coat hangers mailed to her office (a reference to the back alley abortion).

So?  That's protest, not violence.  Huge difference.

Protesters have shown up at Collins’ private home in Bangor.


Again, that's protest - First Amendment.
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Reply #24 - 09/12/18 at 12:54:02
 
http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2018/02/national-security-pros-its-time-tal...

Over the last decade, individuals and groups fueled by this virulent ideology have committed 71 percent of the known politically or religiously inspired killings in our country — that is, 274 of the 387 Americans murdered by extremists. Reports now indicate it was part of the recent murder of 17 school children and teachers in Florida, just as it was part of mass shootings that have happened everywhere from California to Charleston. It has not just hit inside the US, but has struck many of our closest allies, both causing near-tragedies and horrible massacres. It is not a new threat; it has killed hundreds of Americans in past decades. But it is growing in power and influence, worrisomely being stoked by foreign nations like Russia that wish our nation harm. It is a clear, present, and proven danger to the United States.


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Reply #25 - 09/12/18 at 13:42:52
 
Yea, ok. If you and this article say so.
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Reply #26 - 09/12/18 at 14:16:11
 
Just so I'm clear, leftist who threaten Senators and go thru the trouble to mail things to her office are protesters who have no influence whatsoever over their more violent comrades (like the Congressional baseball shooter), but Trump is responsible for the Parkland Fl shooting.....
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Reply #27 - 09/12/18 at 14:31:15
 
WebsterMark wrote on 09/12/18 at 13:42:52:
Yea, ok. If you and this article say so.

You have "alternative facts"?... Huh

...or just your usual anecdoodles?... Roll Eyes
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Reply #28 - 09/12/18 at 14:58:01
 
The alternate facts is that the 1st one on the list is a brown clansman with a black brother born of a crack mother.  Probably given a get out of jail card so the nut job would shoot up something and did.

To call him alt right simply does not give the full picture.
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Reply #29 - 09/12/18 at 15:14:17
 
WebsterMark wrote on 09/12/18 at 14:16:11:
Just so I'm clear, leftist who threaten Senators and go thru the trouble to mail things to her office are protesters who have no influence whatsoever over their more violent comrades (like the Congressional baseball shooter), but Trump is responsible for the Parkland Fl shooting.....


Threaten - no, not cool.  It's assault and should be punished accordingly.

But mailing a coat-hanger?  That's a protest.  It does not inflict pain or suffering.

Sorry mark, you can't possibly think that the left is exclusive in motivating.

Pizzagate?  Abortion clinic bombings?  trump himself inciting violence at his rallies? (“I’d like to punch him in the face”  - “Maybe he should have been roughed up” - “Part of the problem is no one wants to hurt each other anymore” - “I don’t know if I’ll do the fighting myself or if other people will” - “The audience hit back. That’s what we need a little bit more of” - “If you do (hurt him), I’ll defend you in court, don’t worry about it”)

So yeah, you want to talk about actual violence, the trumpsters have the market cornered.
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