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justin_o_guy2
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Reply #30 - 10/06/18 at 10:20:38
 
T And T Garage wrote on 10/05/18 at 15:31:48:
MnSpring wrote on 10/05/18 at 15:25:50:
T And T Garage wrote on 10/05/18 at 15:04:52:
To what degree?  When does life begin?  If you say "at conception" there is no way to determine when that is.  


"...there is no way to determine when that is...."

(Time of Conception)

Here is a little tidbit, which is Biology 101.
(Perhaps you were taking a nap when that lecture occurred)

"...Conception occurs when a woman’s egg meets a man’s sperm, and the two melt together to form the first cell in a new human being. This is familiar knowledge to most of us..."


LOL - wow... just wow....   Grin Grin Grin

Well, it's obvious you have no idea what I'm talking about....

Looks like I gotta explain....sheesh


When I say that we don't know when conception happens, I'm not talking biologically.  I'm talking physically.

There are no "signs" that tell a woman that she's just conceived.  A woman can go weeks, sometimes months without knowing.

How can you possibly not know that?  How old are you?  Have you ever actually been with a woman??

SMH


That nobody has a sign that pops up when egg and sperm meet is a given.
Your using that moment of conception being unknown, and expecting others to not be confused by it is so like you.
WTF would you say that for?
Of COURSE nobody knows. So what?
Why is that relevant? It's something doctors can calculate, approximately, by the baby's development, but nobody knows the exact second the baby was conceived and life began.
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Reply #31 - 10/06/18 at 13:22:53
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/06/18 at 10:20:38:
That nobody has a sign that pops up when egg and sperm meet is a given.

Yeah, I know jog - that's my point.  Some folks don't seem to get that.

Your using that moment of conception being unknown, and expecting others to not be confused by it is so like you.

Oh boo fricken hoo... What else would I/could I possibly be talking about?  If you can't figure that out from context, that's not my problem - well, then again, the same person can't distinguish between "there", "their" and "they're" so....

WTF would you say that for?

See above.  This isn't grade school.

Of COURSE nobody knows. So what?

SO??? Well jog, if you haven't been paying attention to anyone talking about how abortion is "killing babies" then I can't help you.

The entire argument hinges on when life begins.

Try to pay attention.

Why is that relevant? It's something doctors can calculate, approximately, by the baby's development, but nobody knows the exact second the baby was conceived and life began.


Yeah - EXACTLY!!



Consider yourself "taken apart".


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Reply #32 - 10/06/18 at 13:44:04
 
Life begins at the moment the egg is fertilized.
After that
You're KILLING a living being.
Next question.
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Reply #33 - 10/07/18 at 07:33:20
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/06/18 at 13:44:04:
Life begins at the moment the egg is fertilized.

Really?  How can you prove when that happens?  How is a woman supposed to know?  You see, if you outlaw abortion, and when you say that life begins at conception, a woman could be charged with child endangerment/murder if she smokes/drinks or does something that induces a miscarriage.

After that
You're KILLING a living being.
Next question.


No, you're not.  There is no question.
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Reply #34 - 10/07/18 at 07:46:56
 
Of course life begins at conception. There's no scientific debate about that.
The debate occurs wheen you change the meaning of "life" to something different so you've got somee wiggle room.

I wish the pro choice crowd would just be honest and say you think it's okay to take a life for the convenience of the mother and/or father. Just be honest and say that. Stop looking stupid by arguing when life begins.
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Reply #35 - 10/07/18 at 09:54:50
 
WebsterMark wrote on 10/07/18 at 07:46:56:
Of course life begins at conception. There's no scientific debate about that.

Yes mark, there is.  In fact, that's the crux of the debate.

The debate occurs wheen you change the meaning of "life" to something different so you've got somee wiggle room.

I wish the pro choice crowd would just be honest and say you think it's okay to take a life for the convenience of the mother and/or father. Just be honest and say that. Stop looking stupid by arguing when life begins.

No, that's not what it's about.  If you had a daughter and her life was endangered by her pregnancy, you want to tell me that you would choose a fetus over her?

Please....
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Reply #36 - 10/07/18 at 10:22:05
 
Matchless G11 wrote on 10/06/18 at 03:45:59:

This was so powerful.
Had to read it again.
Last night thinking about it, remembering the two most ’telling’ statements.

“…She told me that although she couldn’t tell me what to do, she would offer support regardless…”
“…how pro-life people gave me hope and took care of me and my baby…”

This was, Pro-Life people.

Not the, Anti-Life people.
“… how pro-choice people were only giving me one choice — abortion. …”

And this is  Canada, much, Much, MUCH, more Liberal than the US.

So interesting that in this case, the, 'pro-"Choice",
were NOT, "Choice".





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Reply #37 - 10/07/18 at 10:34:42
 
Who was ever denied a abortion, upon medical welfare of the mother, at the consent of a doctor?
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Reply #38 - 10/07/18 at 12:32:38
 
Attention Goalpost Keeper
Please be advised that you must move them once again, in order to accommodate the most intellectually dishonest amongst us.

Once again you conflate the dissimilar.
Abortion on demand, as birth control
Versus
Life saving

And you want to be taken seriously,,

, that's not what it's about.  If you had a daughter and her life was endangered by her pregnancy, you want to tell me that you would choose a fetus over her?

Go slap yourself.
That's not the issue and nobody I've ever known has pretended that watching one die because they couldn't get an abortion was reasonable.
You're proving my point.
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Reply #39 - 10/07/18 at 14:53:01
 
raydawg wrote on 10/07/18 at 10:34:42:
Who was ever denied a abortion, upon medical welfare of the mother, at the consent of a doctor?



No one that I know of..... yet.

But repeal Roe V. Wade and watch what happens.
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Reply #40 - 10/07/18 at 14:55:47
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/07/18 at 12:32:38:
Attention Goalpost Keeper
Please be advised that you must move them once again, in order to accommodate the most intellectually dishonest amongst us.

Once again you conflate the dissimilar.
Abortion on demand, as birth control
Versus
Life saving

And you want to be taken seriously,,

, that's not what it's about.  If you had a daughter and her life was endangered by her pregnancy, you want to tell me that you would choose a fetus over her?

Go slap yourself.
That's not the issue and nobody I've ever known has pretended that watching one die because they couldn't get an abortion was reasonable.
You're proving my point.
Troll


Are you referring to me jog?

If so - Awesome!

I am so under your skin that you have to call me out.

If I bother you that much - that speaks volumes!

Keep name calling!  Keep getting all upset and losing your cool.

Hey - feel free to send me PMs to tell me how wrong I am!

Thanks!
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Reply #41 - 10/07/18 at 15:05:53
 
T And T Garage wrote on 10/07/18 at 14:53:01:
raydawg wrote on 10/07/18 at 10:34:42:
Who was ever denied a abortion, upon medical welfare of the mother, at the consent of a doctor?



No one that I know of..... yet.

But repeal Roe V. Wade and watch what happens.


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Reply #42 - 10/07/18 at 16:03:31
 
I've never sent you a pm
I demonstrate how wrong you are here
And you pretend it's nothing
You're not worth the time
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Reply #43 - 10/07/18 at 19:55:18
 
raydawg wrote on 10/07/18 at 15:05:53:
T And T Garage wrote on 10/07/18 at 14:53:01:
raydawg wrote on 10/07/18 at 10:34:42:
Who was ever denied a abortion, upon medical welfare of the mother, at the consent of a doctor?



No one that I know of..... yet.

But repeal Roe V. Wade and watch what happens.


fail.


Wow... what a debate!!!

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Reply #44 - 10/07/18 at 19:57:53
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/07/18 at 16:03:31:
I've never sent you a pm
I demonstrate how wrong you are here
And you pretend it's nothing
You're not worth the time


You sure about that?  You sure you want to use the word "never" here jog?

You may regret that.

The only thing that's "wrong" is how much of your life you live/waste on here.

45 thousand posts jog...

Who the he!! are you to tell anyone what's right and wrong??
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