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Re: Why do Trump's supporter 'believe' his lies...
Reply #30 - 10/22/18 at 10:46:56
 
The usual head-nodders on TV seem stunned by the news. They can hardly believe that a bloodthirsty, medieval theocracy would do this. Really? The Saudis? The same people that cut off the hands of thieves and behead adulterers in public parks?” Carlson asked sarcastically.

I don't believe you know squat about the things you attribute to trump.
Libya, OTOH, was up front and in public.

We must SAVE the PeePull of Libyuh from the Brutal Diktater ,
By bombing Them into the stone age!


And Gadhaffi went to the U.N. Security council and TOLD THEM
If you take me out, Europe will be flooded with refugees.

It was obvious enough.

So, either the decision making is done by idiots
Or
The end result WAS the goal.

And Obama LIED to us.
The Antiwar Party cheered.

Lefties BELIEVED that lie.
And continue to believe.
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Reply #31 - 10/22/18 at 10:52:28
 
How about we cease dealing with China?
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Reply #32 - 10/22/18 at 11:56:29
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/22/18 at 10:46:56:
The usual head-nodders on TV seem stunned by the news. They can hardly believe that a bloodthirsty, medieval theocracy would do this. Really? The Saudis? The same people that cut off the hands of thieves and behead adulterers in public parks?” Carlson asked sarcastically.

I don't believe you know squat about the things you attribute to trump.
Libya, OTOH, was up front and in public.

We must SAVE the PeePull of Libyuh from the Brutal Diktater ,
By bombing Them into the stone age!


And Gadhaffi went to the U.N. Security council and TOLD THEM
If you take me out, Europe will be flooded with refugees.

It was obvious enough.

So, either the decision making is done by idiots - idiotic?  Maybe. Misguided/ Probably.
Or
The end result WAS the goal.


Why have a "goal" of a flood of refugees?  Seriously?

And Obama LIED to us.

No, he didn't.  The only thing he's guilty of is poor planning.

Further, at least he owned up to it.

The Antiwar Party cheered.

Lefties BELIEVED that lie.
And continue to believe.

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Reply #33 - 10/22/18 at 11:58:26
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/22/18 at 10:52:28:
How about we cease dealing with China?


That's a good question.  Ask the corporate overlords/oligarchs.

I think they're more than willing to overlook human rights atrocities for a higher margin on their products.

I mean, it hasn't stopped them yet so...
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Reply #34 - 10/22/18 at 12:26:16
 
Thank GOD no democrats ARE those corporate monsters or you would lose your mind..
Phhht..
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Reply #35 - 10/22/18 at 12:36:04
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/22/18 at 12:26:16:
Thank GOD no democrats ARE those corporate monsters or you would lose your mind..
Phhht..


I never said there weren't.  But the vast majority ARE cons.  Seriously jog, who the hell you think drafted the tax breaks that orange julius signed?

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Reply #36 - 10/22/18 at 16:13:06
 
okay, seriously..  everyone,  think about this:

Take him seriously.
Not literally.

what are you basing your serious interpretation on??  

he says things, but those things don't really matter(if they are exaggerated, hyperbolic, inflamatory, instigating, just flat out made up (riots in California?)  ? but you're all serious about it???

so you're basing your seriousness on a salesman's lies and exaggerations...

the hyperbolic language and the emotion you feel from it is more important to you than the actual facts (literalness) of it???  

if someone tells you it's raining cats and dogs outside and you go out and it's barely sprinkling, would you still get all your rain gear and boots and umbrellas and run to your car?  

does the reality of what he says actually mean anything to you?  

how do you have the balls to say we're delusional, that we have TDS, what we believe craziness, that we are ignorant, when you are believing lies, but not really, but yet in a serious way???  


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Reply #37 - 10/22/18 at 16:45:13
 
Stop being so literal.
Get over it.
America is BENEFITING from Trump.
He's not
Presidential.
He says stuff that is not P.C...
And you ain't seen Nothing yet.
Next time, he won't be needing to be reelected.
No Telling what kinda rude crap he's gonna be saying.
You should vote for him, if for no reason other than to see what he does.
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Reply #38 - 10/22/18 at 16:50:52
 
T And T Garage wrote on 10/22/18 at 11:56:29:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/22/18 at 10:46:56:
The usual head-nodders on TV seem stunned by the news. They can hardly believe that a bloodthirsty, medieval theocracy would do this. Really? The Saudis? The same people that cut off the hands of thieves and behead adulterers in public parks?” Carlson asked sarcastically.

I don't believe you know squat about the things you attribute to trump.
Libya, OTOH, was up front and in public.

We must SAVE the PeePull of Libyuh from the Brutal Diktater ,
By bombing Them into the stone age!


And Gadhaffi went to the U.N. Security council and TOLD THEM
If you take me out, Europe will be flooded with refugees.

It was obvious enough.

So, either the decision making is done by idiots - idiotic?  Maybe. Misguided/ Probably.
Or
The end result WAS the goal.


Why have a "goal" of a flood of refugees?  Seriously?

And Obama LIED to us.

No, he didn't.  The only thing he's guilty of is poor planning.

Further, at least he owned up to it.

The Antiwar Party cheered.

Lefties BELIEVED that lie.
And continue to believe.


Yes, Obama LIED. He said it was a humanitarian mission.
THAT'S NOT HOW YOU HELP PEOPLE.



Why have a "goal" of a flood of refugees?  Seriously

It requires a much more complicated grasp of the world to see how that could possibly be a goal. I DIDN'T say it was, but it was the obvious result of wiping Libya out, and they did it anyway.

If you want to stir the melting pot, drive societies to economic ruin, they started the process.
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Reply #39 - 10/22/18 at 18:37:32
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/22/18 at 16:45:13:
Stop being so literal.
Get over it.
America is BENEFITING from Trump.
He's not
Presidential.
He says stuff that is not P.C...
And you ain't seen Nothing yet.
Next time, he won't be needing to be reelected.
No Telling what kinda rude crap he's gonna be saying.
You should vote for him, if for no reason other than to see what he does.



No, I won't stop being "so literal."

this is how language works, somebody says something, someone else hears those words and judges them based on their knowledge of facts, reality and values, if they find those words to be hyperbolic, offensive, exaggerated and outright lies, what kind of person takes that seriously??!!

but NO, let's do it your way, let's take thing seriously but not literally, let's let our emotions and hubris lead the way......

Warrens DNA,  oh, that's okay, don't take it so literally.... but it's serious that she has Native American ancestors....  

"if you like your plan you can keep you plan"  shhhh, he's not being literal, he was saying that there'll probably be a plan just like your plan on the new exchanges..... even if they are completely different, quit being so literal man....

"humanitarian mission in Libya"  it'll help someone right? it doesn't have to literally be an actual success, at least we tried right?   and seriously, we need to back up our NATO allies on this one.... so let's take it seriously even if there's not literally a humanitarian mission....

$110 billion and 6000 job arms deal in Saudi...   that's serious enough to risk taking some more injury to our moral high ground...  oh it's literally only $25 billion..... well, still, serious enough right???


and on and on and on....


and I thought you cared about the truth

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Reply #40 - 10/22/18 at 19:07:14
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/22/18 at 16:45:13:
Stop being so literal.
Get over it.
America is BENEFITING from Trump. - No, not benefiting.  He has made this country a punch line.  His "policies" are nothing but a signing ceremony for the establishment republicans.  In fact, he has done (I mean signed) little to nothing for the middle class and EVERYTHING for the 1% and corporations.

He's not
Presidential.

No sh!t sherlock!

He says stuff that is not P.C...
And you ain't seen Nothing yet.
Next time, he won't be needing to be reelected. Really?  Are you saying he's going to appoint himself??  
No Telling what kinda rude crap he's gonna be saying.
You should vote for him, if for no reason other than to see what he does.

Never, ever - even with a gun to my head, would I vote for that moron.
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Reply #41 - 10/22/18 at 19:25:15
 
http://www.nrdc.org/trump-lies

http://projects.thestar.com/donald-trump-fact-check/


Both of these links have far too many items (lies) to list.
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Reply #42 - 10/23/18 at 06:54:02
 
Where have we gotten to in this country if we don't take every single statement from the president seriously?

A little reality check is in order. Obama lied repeatedly in office. All Presidents do, and he was no exception. Now, you can claim whatever lies were minimal and harmless, but I would beg to differ.

During his campaign, "More black men languish in prison that attend colleges across America".  Wrong. And let’s not even bring up the fact this was dealing race cards.

Of course, the big whopper “if you like your plan you can keep you plan.” That was a huge one because it was told to sway opinion.

Allowing the Hilary story to continue that the Benghazi attack was spontaneous due to the uproar caused by an inflammatory video tape.

Nice lie to cover his a$$. I'm pretty sure I know what happened there. When they got a request for more security, they decided it would weaken their position that the situation was under control, so they said no. When the $hit the fan and the Ambassador was killed, Obama told Hilary if she stuck by a story that covered him, he'd support her during her election. She took the blame knowing the media would provide enough cover to survive it which she did.


Has there ever been a president who addressed the general public with such disregard?  


Well, as a matter of fact, yes. "You didn't build that" was a statement that put on full display his lack of understanding of America. His lack of business experience. It displayed the fact his entire life before being in office was academic or political. He had and still has, zero knowledge of how things get done in this country. He was voted into the Senate because of how he was packaged, not what was on the inside. He was in the senate for two years, having accomplished nothing of value, when he announced he was exploring the Presidency. He was a bright, shiny package.


Has there ever been a president to state categorically that "I alone can fix it"?

Is there any statement more narcissist than this?

generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth.

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Reply #43 - 10/23/18 at 07:19:09
 
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Reply #44 - 10/23/18 at 08:26:32
 
WebsterMark wrote on 10/23/18 at 06:54:02:
Where have we gotten to in this country if we don't take every single statement from the president seriously?

A little reality check is in order. Obama lied repeatedly in office. All Presidents do, and he was no exception. Now, you can claim whatever lies were minimal and harmless, but I would beg to differ.

During his campaign, "More black men languish in prison that attend colleges across America".  Wrong. And let’s not even bring up the fact this was dealing race cards.

WAIT!!! why are you taking him literally???  isn't the sentiment of that statement more important? that black men are behind in college attendance and ahead in prison sentences????  


Of course, the big whopper “if you like your plan you can keep you plan.” That was a huge one because it was told to sway opinion.

Okay, again, why are you taking that literally?????  again the essence of this statement is: surely there was a plan almost just like your plan on the exchanges, I mean private insurance wouldn't just drop it would they???


Allowing the Hilary story to continue that the Benghazi attack was spontaneous due to the uproar caused by an inflammatory video tape.

again, literal interpretation, you were so mad about it then, but you can't be mad about it now can you? you're the ones not taking things literally.
I"m sure Clinton meant, the general inflamation in the area, not helped by a video, stirring the pot, and sure, there might have been a pre-planned attack but all doubt to do it was abolished when that video came out.....  but that's me reading a ton into it, taking Clinton seriously but not literally



Nice lie to cover his a$$. I'm pretty sure I know what happened there. When they got a request for more security, they decided it would weaken their position that the situation was under control, so they said no. When the $hit the fan and the Ambassador was killed, Obama told Hilary if she stuck by a story that covered him, he'd support her during her election. She took the blame knowing the media would provide enough cover to survive it which she did.


Has there ever been a president who addressed the general public with such disregard?  


Well, as a matter of fact, yes. "You didn't build that" was a statement that put on full display his lack of understanding of America. His lack of business experience. It displayed the fact his entire life before being in office was academic or political. He had and still has, zero knowledge of how things get done in this country. He was voted into the Senate because of how he was packaged, not what was on the inside. He was in the senate for two years, having accomplished nothing of value, when he announced he was exploring the Presidency. He was a bright, shiny package.


um, again, you are taking that both out of context and very literally.  Obama wasn't speaking of the business, he was speaking of the various infrastructure allowing businesses to thrive in America in general, whether that's roads, or education or other government/public funded things. That was the sentiment of that statement, but you took it literally and now you're all upset that we are taking Trump literally????  mmmmm, sounds like someone isn't being consistent or honest with themselves.....


Has there ever been a president to state categorically that "I alone can fix it"?

Is there any statement more narcissist than this?

generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth.


how is is when a president says "we began to "  it's narcissistic????  again, he's LITERALLY giving  credit to WE the American people.....





if you can't be consistent and honest with yourself, why bother talking to anyone else, debate is useless, the reality is we need to take Presidential statements both literally AND seriously


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