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Reply #15 - 11/04/18 at 13:02:46
 
If you clowns see border security as a racist issue, it's you with the problem, not me.
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Reply #16 - 11/04/18 at 14:22:18
 
WebsterMark wrote on 11/04/18 at 13:02:46:
If you clowns see border security as a racist issue, it's you with the problem, not me.



The issue is 'due process' not border security which you already have.
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Reply #17 - 11/04/18 at 15:26:39
 
Non citizens HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
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Reply #18 - 11/04/18 at 19:17:42
 
eau de sauvage wrote on 11/04/18 at 14:22:18:
WebsterMark wrote on 11/04/18 at 13:02:46:
If you clowns see border security as a racist issue, it's you with the problem, not me.



The issue is 'due process' not border security which you already have.


We have millions of ILLEGAL aliens now so tell me again how we have border security?

And half the leftist on this forum didn't give a crap about due process a few weeks ago....
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Reply #19 - 11/04/18 at 20:20:57
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/04/18 at 15:26:39:
Non citizens HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.



Humans have human rights. What about the rights of the Iraqis to not be murdered by the USA even though it was the Saudis who crappity smacked you over and now you kiss their arse.

BTW JoG I've been meaning to ask you, what shoe size does Webster Mark take?
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Reply #20 - 11/04/18 at 23:03:06
 
I advocated for destroying Iraq?
WTF are you talking about?
So you Agree that immigrants trying to gain access to America actually have no constitutional rights?
And now you're moving the goalposts?
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Reply #21 - 11/04/18 at 23:42:50
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/04/18 at 23:03:06:
I advocated for destroying Iraq?
WTF are you talking about?



I didn't say you advocated for destroying Iraq. You are such a dumbass
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Reply #22 - 11/04/18 at 23:46:51
 
Yeah, I'm a dumbass.
I pointed out that only Americans have constitutional rights, you decided that Now it's about human rights and you tossed in Iraq being bombed...
And because I don't follow, I'm the dumbass.

Phhht..
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Reply #23 - 11/05/18 at 01:06:15
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/04/18 at 23:46:51:
and you tossed in Iraq being bombed...


You see this is why your an ugly nasty racist like Trump. Oh it's such a big deal a few thousand illegal immigrants or people looking for asylum, as if it's not like that everywhere in the whole crappity smacking world. It's a complete beat up engineered by trump to allow racists like yourself the chance to feel good about your ugliness.

This is so fcuking important. Borders are so precious to you yet y'all couldn't give a rats arse when it comes to invading other people's borders, and you make this an issue about the illegals being dangerous but ironically by invading another country illegally and killing hundreds of thousands including your own sons and daughters in the military, you actually make your fearful selves less safe, and to cap it off the people who attack you are people you suck up to and sell weapons too.

You reap what you sow moron.
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Reply #24 - 11/05/18 at 02:01:44
 
so fcuking important. Borders are so precious to you yet y'all couldn't give a rats arse when it comes to invading other people's borders, and you make this an issue about the illegals being dangerous but ironically by invading another country illegally and killing hundreds of thousands including your own sons and daughters in the mili


You lying sackofshitt.
I'm EXACTLY the One who has raised hell about our military ventures.
And stopping the illegal immigrants from invading STILL matters.
The color of the skin isn't an issue.
It's that they have no right to force their way into America.
How is your position NOT a call for open borders?
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Reply #25 - 11/05/18 at 08:19:02
 
eau de sauvage wrote on 11/05/18 at 01:06:15:
You see this is why your an ugly nasty racist like Trump.
Oh it's such a big deal a few thousand illegal immigrants or people looking for asylum,

So, again, exactly HOW does Australia, deal with asylum-seekers  ?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-asylum/australia-says-hundreds-l...
“…Australia has long exiled asylum seekers on the remote island of Manus…”
https://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/long-reads/article/2143663/human...

And, tell the USA,  ‘Citizens’,  how, Government Health Care will be SO  Wonderful !
“…A grieving mother is trying to raise money after government funds were slashed for her son who tragically became a paraplegic after a party stunt went wrong….”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5467925/Sydney-rugby-player-parapleg...
Can’t wait to see how the he/she called tt
TELLS YOU, how to respond.


You reap what you sow moron.
A-Yep, Ya Sure Do

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #26 - 11/05/18 at 09:11:24
 
Asylum seekers are expected to seek asylum in THE FIRST PLACE that they can. Mexico OFFERED asylum. Yet, some continue to America.
They have No Rights to cross the border.
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Reply #27 - 11/05/18 at 13:14:39
 
Well, if we could just fund the border wall we wouldn't have to send our military.

One of the reasons they are sent BEFORE they get there is to create the security that is now NOT in place.

Mexico offered asylum and they turned it down. The UN offered asylum in various places and they turned them down. They are not looking for asylum because they FEAR for their lives. They just want to come live here and you know what? That is OK, they just have to follow the procedures and do it legally but NO they do not get to come here and make any demands. Additionally it is not the responsibility of the American taxpayer to take care of them until they can come here legally.

PS: It is not just a few thousand illegals. It is estimated that the US currently has 20 Million at least. I think we should round them up and have military aircraft take them all to Australia. I hear that is a prosperous place.

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Reply #28 - 11/05/18 at 13:37:51
 
MShipley wrote on 11/05/18 at 13:14:39:
Well, if we could just fund the border wall we wouldn't have to send our military.

One of the reasons they are sent BEFORE they get there is to create the security that is now NOT in place.

Mexico offered asylum and they turned it down. The UN offered asylum in various places and they turned them down. They are not looking for asylum because they FEAR for their lives. They just want to come live here and you know what? That is OK, they just have to follow the procedures and do it legally but NO they do not get to come here and make any demands. Additionally it is not the responsibility of the American taxpayer to take care of them until they can come here legally.

PS: It is not just a few thousand illegals. It is estimated that the US currently has 20 Million at least. I think we should round them up and have military aircraft take them all to Australia. I hear that is a prosperous place.


Actually, keeping it real, it's about 11 million, not 20 million.

Not endorsing it, just stating facts.

I get that it's too many - but there are way too many agri-businesses that come to rely on this type of labor.

It's been that way for decades.

A wall is only a deterrent.  People can still climb over or tunnel under it.  And they'll continue to do so as long as these jobs exist.

What's the best answer?  I don't know.  But it's not just a wall.  If you're going to spend billions, it seems a waste to put all that into one basket.  Why not reform the immigration process?  Not saying make it easier, just more accessible.  That would be a start.
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Reply #29 - 11/05/18 at 14:10:34
 
A wall is a start. Immigration reform relies on enforcement which relies on the justice department which relies on the current administration. A wall doesn't buckle to the whims of the media.

Anyone who says a wall,  as a deterrent, is not worth it is kidding themselves. We all lock our doors, have fences with locking gates knowing full well the few determined thieves will still make it through.

And a recent Yale - MIT study (no conservative stronghold to be sure) put the number as high as 22 million and a Bloomberg report put it as high as 30 million. 10% of the population? I could see that being true easily.



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