justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/15/18 at 14:54:04:



When.  Is there a guidebook?  How the hell are we to know when he's being serious???

Why is it OK for this president to ever not be taken seriously when speaking in public??

You let all his sh!t slide right off your back, but then feel the need to berate posters on here...

If this were a dem, you'd be all over him/her.  How f-ing convenient.

But since this is your boy, you defend him to the Nth degree with skin thinner than an onion...

Tell us jog - who's the snowflake here, huh?

@ JoG,

But the point is that Trump has made trash talking normal. He's not some random internet person on a forum he's the frikken leader of the most powerful nation on Earth, although that's not going to be able to be sustained as the latest report on the US military has noted...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46219481 This makes for sobering reading.

The National Defense Strategy Commission was tasked by Congress to give an independent, non-partisan review of the Trump administration's defence strategy.

No change

Serowbot wrote on 11/15/18 at 16:24:40:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/15/18 at 14:54:04:

Take him
Seriously
Not
Literally

Yes, we have to take what he says seriously,.. because he's the President, and what he says matters.
...and no,.. we can't take him literally because he's a lying, idiot, manbaby, that often spouts gibberish, and offensive things.

This is unfortunate, because while we Americans know he's a bizarre joke,... much of the rest of the world might think he's a real President.  
Like a real, grown-up, sensible, person.

That is an unfortunately dangerous position to take. This is what we were warned of right when he took office. Everyone hoped for the best, hoped that the office would civilise him a bit. That the career professionals would guide him. However when he instantly revealed himself as president to be none other than the Donald Trump he always was, it was understood that his egregiously over top stupidity was meant to numb us.

With that in mind the general opinion was that however much horror, lies and disrespect he shows for US institutions that at least in theory are non political, that this presidency is very much *not* normal. And his antics, misogyny, anger, racist dog whistles and white power enabling actions, would never be allowed to become 'normalised'.

However even the most pessimistic at the time could never have believed that he would praise lunatics like Kim and Dutuerte, and give them the respect they crave, not to mention his continual ability to find ever newer depths to sink to. So it has not been difficult to maintain the rage, as it were.

It's worth remembering that he has been enabled and empowered to do this by the gutless, spineless, lying, 'for the rich', GOP. For their own reasons. For McConnell it was simply part of his grand vision to stack the court with blatantly right wing Justices, whose lifetime appointments will live long after those in the GOP are long buried.

Sacha Baron Cohen, was a joke, Trump is a frikken nightmare. However I'm with David Lynch when he said ...

"Trump could go down as one of the greatest presidents in history..."

Trump, like the idiot he is, quoted Lynch in his twitter feed not realising, or more likely unable to comprehend the subtle point Lynch was making, which was that Trump holds up a mirror to the creeping ugliness infesting politics all over the world.

The proof that he was necessary is the effect his extreme brand of hateful misogyny has on the Mid Terms, with unprecedented numbers of women entering politics. There's talk of Texas turning blue.

EDIT: just saw this https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46119736

Another good side effect of Trump. highest voter turnout for a mid term in over 100 years.

You can now see that apart from installing judges who'll back the religious right, the next most important GOP agenda is disenfranchising voters. Either by direct intervention or Gerrymandering. And in fact these two coalesce when you have Judges backing Gerrymandering which happened a few months ago.

But how would Democrats cheat if we did that?

Georgia and Florida Dems are making up rules as they go.

Please read and remember.
I've been saying for years that we don't need to
Rebuild a military that is funded by more money than the next several nations militaries combined.
I don't know which military ventures we have been involved in that we Should have been.

verslagen1 wrote on 11/16/18 at 08:57:43:

Quote:

Enlarge US forces so they can fight two wars, as they are currently only capable of fighting one

Are you kidding?

Hey I'm just the messenger.

However with China and Russia both going big on military and with the US seemingly in perpetual war somewhere or other, it does make sense that if the military cannot fight two conventional wars that they are going to get into some bother, or they might feel the need to use strategic nuclear weapons.

I'm not privy to top secret intelligence information as JoG apparently is but it's normal for an arms race to escalate, as each side tries to nullify the defence capabilities of the other side.

This is where the US's alienation of it's traditional allies has got everyone thinking about tooling up more.

 Nice, "boorish" and an "eel", those are new ones for me.  I have another post up on the office wall, I need to throw yours up there too.

 I think you will find offense if you are looking for it.  All I do is respectfully engage in conversation, obviously something you will refuse to do with me, but lack of respectful exchange is pretty normal here.