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Re: CO2
Reply #30 - 11/30/18 at 16:00:24

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/29/18 at 17:29:35:

Paying Carbon Taxes will surely solve the problem.

pure supposition on my part here
I've not done any research on this topic

carbon tax may work, tax the big carbon emitting processes if taxes were high enough they may change their ways
kinda like how the gas guzzler tax works

one draw back is the consumer foots the bill

I own the vehicles I have for their mpg ratings

if products were labeled with their carbon footprint it would allow consumers to pick and choose as they see fit
as we are a consumer driven economy.

jog
from the research I have done a
partial answer to your question of our contribution to co2
28% by burning fossil fuels

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Re: CO2
Reply #31 - 11/30/18 at 16:04:46

LostArtist wrote on 11/30/18 at 12:42:17:

"... climatologists that have spent their LIVES studying this ..."

Climatologists/Scientists get paid, by the, (mostly), teaching organization they are employed by.

They write grants, and proposals to, ‘fund’ their projects/field of study/s.

They say the things they know the people who pay them, want to hear, so they have a much better chance of getting paid.

If they say things they know people who pay them, do not want to hear, they have a much better chance of not getting paid.

What do you think they 'say' ?

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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 7280 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: CO2 Reply #32 - 11/30/18 at 16:26:15 just like tweety if you don't agree with it it must be fake news because after all "the truth isn't the truth"
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9914	Re: CO2 Reply #33 - 11/30/18 at 16:28:27 "Tell me which of the Dire Consequences we've been being told were right around the corner have actually come to be." I believe the same number as there have been government agencies kicking in doors taking our guns.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: CO2 Reply #34 - 11/30/18 at 16:29:04 No. After DECADES of warnings about the Dire Consequences And NOT ONE OF THEM HAS HAPPENED I don't believe them. Why the FUKK do you?
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Re: CO2
Reply #35 - 11/30/18 at 17:12:18

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/30/18 at 16:29:04:

No.
After
DECADES of warnings about the
Dire Consequences
And
NOT ONE OF THEM HAS HAPPENED
I don't believe them.
Why the FUKK do you?

why do you resort to the foul language when your ideals are challenged

I showed you the facts and all you could do was mention carbon tax

you have said over the
years(12)you are here to teach
so why resort to gutter lingo when you are unable to come up with any true reasonable statements?

your proclaimed 140 IQ is not apparent in your postings

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: CO2 Reply #36 - 11/30/18 at 18:45:11 I'm frustrated with you. So After the years of warnings about the Dire consequences And Exactly NONE of them have come true Why do you still believe them? How perfectly incorrect does someone need to be before you stop believing them? Isn't 100% enough? Again WHY do you continue to believe?
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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 7280 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: CO2 Reply #37 - 12/01/18 at 06:32:27 road sign warning of danger ahead.
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Re: CO2
Reply #38 - 12/01/18 at 09:07:50

Looks like you're stumped.
You have exactly No logical argument to support continuing to believe they have a clue about what is actually happening.
You may not support carbon taxes, but plenty of people who would Spend those taxes do. Legislators ...
Those
Warning Signs
Have been Wrong for over TWENTY years.
So, you just keep believing them?
And you people point to gun owners and call them names..

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Re: CO2
Reply #39 - 12/01/18 at 10:19:10

thumperclone wrote on 12/01/18 at 06:32:27:

road sign warning of danger ahead.

You're aware of those warnings about
More and bigger hurricanes
Oceans rising
And all the other scary things were gonna get us if we didn't have our act together in ten years, right?
That ten years has passed
Twice

So
Driving down the road
Sign says

Bad road ahead

Miles pass

Another
Warning sign

Bad road ahead

Miles pass

The road is good

Warning sign

Bad road ahead

You fully believe THAT?
Why?

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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 7280 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: CO2 Reply #40 - 12/02/18 at 04:56:51 we don't agree that's fine spend some time and research the numbers or continue believing the big oil naysayers because of your location maybe its unsafe for you to come to the logical conclusion the data leads to I am finished with this topic..
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: CO2 Reply #41 - 12/02/18 at 05:13:53 I don't blame you.
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LostArtist

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Re: CO2
Reply #42 - 12/03/18 at 10:37:56

thumperclone wrote on 12/02/18 at 04:56:51:

we don't agree that's fine
spend some time and research the numbers or continue believing the big oil naysayers
because of your location maybe its unsafe for you to come to the logical conclusion the data leads to

I am finished with this topic..

you still haven't given me an actual example of a "dire consequence" that hasn't happened. if they are so plentiful, how hard is that?

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LostArtist

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Re: CO2
Reply #43 - 12/03/18 at 10:45:07

MnSpring wrote on 11/30/18 at 16:04:46:

LostArtist wrote on 11/30/18 at 12:42:17:

"... climatologists that have spent their LIVES studying this ..."

Climatologists/Scientists get paid, by the, (mostly), teaching organization they are employed by.

They write grants, and proposals to, ‘fund’ their projects/field of study/s.

They say the things they know the people who pay them, want to hear, so they have a much better chance of getting paid.

If they say things they know people who pay them, do not want to hear, they have a much better chance of not getting paid.

What do you think they 'say' ?

so, they've been doing that under both republican and democratic administrations....

and the same thing is true for the climate deniers that are paid for by conservatives and big oil companies right?

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Re: CO2
Reply #44 - 12/03/18 at 10:57:06

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/01/18 at 10:19:10:

thumperclone wrote on 12/01/18 at 06:32:27:

road sign warning of danger ahead.

You're aware of those warnings about
More and bigger hurricanes
Oceans rising
And all the other scary things were gonna get us if we didn't have our act together in ten years, right?
That ten years has passed
Twice

and they are happening, just look at the size of the storms or Harvey and Florence and Ike vs the storms of the same category 20 years ago, look it up

the oceans are rising, more and more.

so, all of that HAS HAPPENED, and can be and has been confirmed with actual MEASURABLE data, but you don't trust the data, that's YOUR issue, not mine,

people actually have been displaced from their homes from oceans rising

you are too stubborn to see the facts

So
Driving down the road
Sign says

Bad road ahead

Miles pass

Another
Warning sign

Bad road ahead

Miles pass

The road is good

Warning sign

Bad road ahead

You fully believe THAT?
Why?

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