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Reply #45 - 12/15/18 at 15:35:44
 
Eegore wrote on 12/14/18 at 22:31:51:

 Lets make it simple: does that baby have a Non-Citizen Mother?  

In the, 'Proof' that tt showed,
their was NO, 'Proof',
that the mother/s were Not Citizens.

Which IS  'proof',
that tt is lying, again !


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Reply #46 - 12/15/18 at 16:08:53
 
An Anchor baby is a baby of a Non-Citizen mother that is not married to a US Citizen Father at the time of the child's birth.  

Which is universally true of every illegal alien who comes here pregnant and dominoes in America in order to be allowed to stay,
Hence the term
Anchor Baby.

That such obvious TRUTH needs to be explained, over and over again, is really irritating.
It's not complicated.
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Reply #47 - 12/15/18 at 16:48:53
 

 You are using a different definition, or just ignoring the one posted.

 Non-Citizen Mother is literally the only criteria for anchor baby.

"legal Need"

 I find this fundamentally incorrect since being married to a US male does not guarantee anything including citizenship.

 A Non-Citizen Mother does not "Need" to have a baby on US soil, but if she does, she has an anchor baby.
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Reply #48 - 12/15/18 at 21:51:46
 
It's not .
But stay confused.
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Reply #49 - 12/16/18 at 00:32:21
 
"It's not ."

 Then provide your definition and stop trying to say that the provided definition is more than "Non-Citizen Mother"  There is only one accurate way to interpret the definition of "Non-Citizen Mother".

 You keep talking about the Father, which is not in the provided definition.  Have you even considered providing your definition of Anchor Baby or are you just going to keep telling me I am actually confusing a one-sentence definition:

 A child of a Non-Citizen Mother.  

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Reply #50 - 12/16/18 at 06:32:31
 
Illegal aliens are non citizens .
Not all non citizens are illegal aliens.
Got it?
A non citizen, married to a citizen
Doesn't NEED a baby in order to not be deported.
Her child is not an ANCHOR baby.
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Reply #51 - 12/16/18 at 09:38:20
 
"Doesn't NEED a baby in order to not be deported."

 Right.  A Non-Citizen Mother does not NEED to have a baby at all, but when she does that baby is an anchor baby based off the definition provided.

 An anchor baby is defined here as a baby that was born on US soil from a Non-Citizen Mother.  That definition says nothing about marriage, or deportation.

 You are saying that an Anchor baby is a baby born on US soil from a Non-Citizen Mother that is not at the time of birth married to a US Citizen Male, and will require the birth of the child as a means of avoiding deportation.

 You see anchor as a term applying to the mother, and I see it as a term applying to the baby.
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Reply #52 - 12/16/18 at 10:24:57
 
The baby IS the anchor that protects the mother from deportation.
If the possibility of deportation doesn't exist, I.e.marriage to a CITIZEN,
The baby is not an ANCHOR to protect the mother from deportation.
If you don't get that, you need to sit and think until you do.

Illegal aliens NEED to drop a baby, anchoring them in America.

Non citizens who are married to a citizen have no legal Need for an ANCHOR.
Since the baby ISN'T legally any kind of anchor, calling it one is torturing language and truth.
How very lefty.
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Reply #53 - 12/16/18 at 10:30:52
 
Eegore wrote on 12/16/18 at 09:38:20:
 You see anchor as a term applying to the mother, and I see it as a term applying to the baby.

I see it as, the baby, is, Anchoring, the mother.
Therefore, the Mother is, 'anchored'.

Some like to 'tip-toe', around a subject.
Let's get down to it.
WHY, does a Non Citizen, 8-3/4 months pregnant,
Risk sneaking, walking, swimming, into this Country ?

So the MOTHER, can stay !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Reply #54 - 12/16/18 at 15:49:58
 
"Some like to 'tip-toe', around a subject.
Let's get down to it.
WHY, does a Non Citizen, 8-3/4 months pregnant,
Risk sneaking, walking, swimming, into this Country ?

So the MOTHER, can stay !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


 Agreed.  Also the definition provided indicates that all Non-Citizen Mothers that have a baby on US soil has had an anchor baby.

 Nothing about the provided definition describes motive of the mother, or her marital/employment status.

 When affluent Chinese mothers enter the US legally to have a child on US soil, is that Non-Citizen Mother having an anchor baby?
 

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Reply #55 - 12/16/18 at 18:52:52
 
Depends.
If she wants to stay, she can.
But if she wants to take the
American Citizen Baby home and raise it and teach it to hate America, she can.
Then, once it's indoctrinated and hates America, it, as an American CITIZEN, can return and spy or cause havoc.

You didn't know I knew about that, did you?
Grab your needle and thread. Your sails are in tatters.
You LIED about what I said and twisted my words.
I never would have believed you would do that.

You're so desperate to twist things now that I've shown how wrong you are, it's pathetic. How can anyone so intellectually capable choose to argue For something after being proven wrong?
Sad, dude, and very disappointing.
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Reply #56 - 12/16/18 at 21:24:32
 
You keep moving the goalposts.
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Reply #57 - 12/17/18 at 04:30:21
 
"You LIED about what I said and twisted my words."

 I'd be interested in how I did that.  I agree with you, I've said that more than once.  But that doesn't mean I have to agree with the provided definition correlating with your assessment.  It appears everything is a personal attack to you here.  

"You didn't know I knew about that, did you?"

 I didn't even think about it, it's not relevant except for the part about the Chinese Mother staying in the US.  I chose Affluent Chinese since it is rather common and reported on regularly, it could be any country of origin.

 I am saying that the provided definition is exclusively:

"Non Citizen Mother"

 You are saying its something else, but are too busy complaining, and now travelling down the personal attacks lane, again, to type your definition down.  

 I've posted suggested revisions, you don't agree to those, so tell me what your definition is.

 So in an attempt to continue the discussion like adults:

"Depends.
If she wants to stay, she can."


 So are you saying that if a Non-Citizen Chinese (or any other country of origin) Mother has a baby on US soil and stays she has had an anchor baby, but if she goes back to China (or any other location than the US and it's Territories) she has NOT had an anchor baby?

 Is a baby that gets US citizenship an anchor baby?

 Is the deciding factor actually the Domicile Status of the Non-Citizen Mother?

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Reply #58 - 12/17/18 at 06:10:23
 
I was trying to follow the back and forth on this but I'm lost.

Just what exactly are you running in circles about? The definition of an anchor baby?
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Reply #59 - 12/17/18 at 07:13:19
 

 That and how it applies to the original article posted.

 The posted definition is exclusively about Non-Citizen Mothers having a baby on US soil.

 The argument is that it applies only to Non-Citizen Mothers that are here illegally and using the baby for domicile status.  

 That creates a conflict, along with other variables such as marriage.

 Citizen Father may or may not be part of the equation, domicile status may or may not be.  There is a way to create a standard but its difficult here because there's a lot of nonsense in the way like taking a simple discussion and making it personal, or complaining instead of answering a question.

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