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Re: If it's immoral to use a wall
Reply #105 - 01/02/19 at 16:03:45

batman wrote on 01/02/19 at 15:43:18:

WELL IF YOU CARE TO READ A BIT YOU'LL FIND THAT ALL THE IMMIGRATION TREATIES SIGNED BY THE USA AND OTHER COUNTRIES STATE THAT ONCE AN ILLEGAL STEPS ON OUR SOIL THEY DO HAVE THE SAME LEGAL RIGHTS AS YOU AND I.

WOW, if that is the case.
That is a GREAT reason to STEEL/SNEAK/LIE one's azz across the boarder.
All ALL the MORE Reason so build a wall, (electronic or physical).

Because the 'Rights' of the, 'Citizens' of the USA,
TRUMP, all the other Nations.
(Well except Switzerland)

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Re: If it's immoral to use a wall
Reply #106 - 01/02/19 at 16:06:21

MnSpring wrote on 01/02/19 at 16:03:45:

batman wrote on 01/02/19 at 15:43:18:

WELL IF YOU CARE TO READ A BIT YOU'LL FIND THAT ALL THE IMMIGRATION TREATIES SIGNED BY THE USA AND OTHER COUNTRIES STATE THAT ONCE AN ILLEGAL STEPS ON OUR SOIL THEY DO HAVE THE SAME LEGAL RIGHTS AS YOU AND I.

WOW, if that is the case.
That is a GREAT reason to STEEL/SNEAK/LIE one's azz across the boarder.
All ALL the MORE Reason so build a wall, (electronic or physical).

Because the 'Rights' of the, 'Citizens' of the USA,
TRUMP, all the other Nations.
(Well except Switzerland)

Hey, like web says - shut up mn.
Cheesy

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Re: If it's immoral to use a wall
Reply #107 - 01/02/19 at 16:12:15

"That's the biggest load of ignorant SCHITT on the planet."

That's the reply of someone unable, or unwilling to have an adult conversation about a political topic. Instead of continuing to insult peoples opinions on here why don't you try having a conversation?

For instance what part of my assessment that there are varying degrees of morality in Border Enforcement do you disagree with and why? My stance is that I believe that a wall, a drone, a gun and a courtroom have different degrees of moral application based off of their use. They can all be misused, thus creating a moral paradox of evaluating the usage of the tool instead of evaluating the morality of the tool itself. A concept I think gun owners might be familiar with for instance.

Why is that incorrect from your perspective?

Or are you stating that all forms of Border Enforcement are equally moral thus answering the question for us?

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: If it's immoral to use a wall Reply #108 - 01/02/19 at 18:03:25 I'm sick of it. It's been addressed. Nobody. MUTHERFUKKIN NOBODY HAS SUGGESTED ANYTHING LESS THAN DECENT ACTIONS. No poison, no killing grow up I'm not typing this again
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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 7280 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: If it's immoral to use a wall Reply #109 - 01/02/19 at 18:36:15 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/02/19 at 18:03:25: I'm sick of it. It's been addressed. Nobody. MUTHERFUKKIN NOBODY HAS SUGGESTED ANYTHING LESS THAN DECENT ACTIONS. No poison, no killing grow up I'm not typing this again fake news again
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: If it's immoral to use a wall Reply #110 - 01/02/19 at 18:54:47 How is it fake?
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Re: If it's immoral to use a wall
Reply #111 - 01/02/19 at 21:15:10

"Nobody. MUTHERFUKKIN NOBODY HAS SUGGESTED ANYTHING LESS THAN DECENT ACTIONS."

I have.

I am providing examples of varying degrees of morality from my perspective. This angers you, you have made that clear but that does not change my assessment.

If you are stating that all forms of Border Control are to be assessed equally in terms of morality then yes it is equally immoral to use modern technology as a wall. But only if you are removing our ability to assess morality in this discussion, thus negating it as a question and making this thread a statement.

If you are asking... again: asking if all forms of border Control should be considered equal in morality then that is a question, and if you ask a question sometimes you will get an answer you don't want to hear. For instance examples of a varying spectrum of ideas beyond what you have described might be introduced as... well... examples.

My answer if you are asking a question is maybe, but more likely no. If you really want to get into a real adult conversation we would discuss if usage of technology vs a wall is equal to implementation. I mention this because I believe your question has more to do with abuse of Border Control than the control feature itself, again just like firearms.

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Re: If it's immoral to use a wall
Reply #112 - 01/03/19 at 05:05:56

7 people arrested for assisting the illegal cop killer while on the run. At this point, all reported to be illegals. This story had disappeared from the news. No cries about how he got the gun. No word from either California Senator about a cop killed in their state.

Anyone proposing electronic measures on the border is a fool. A President Warren, Harris or Booker would shut that $hit down on day 1.

We had a new prosecutor elected in St Louis who defeated Robert McCullah. You may remember that name, he's the prosecutor who announced the grand jury would not indict Darren Wilson for shooting the gentle giant Michael Brown.

First day on the job, the new prosecutor fired the investigator who presented evidence to that grand jury, announced the city would no longer pursue weed cases for less than 100 grams effectively legalizing weed in St Louis metro and then announced they would not pursue cases of failure to pay child support.

Imagine a campaign season where Warren or Harris are forced to the opposite side of Trump on border security. Imagine they won. Imagine the caravans heading this way the next day.

We're f'd. I told Sew a long time ago he would win this war. The leftist will take control.

Unless Trump can pull off a miracle, he'll only be a four year, hell, two year, detour. If the media and their political party can effectively bury the story about a cop killed by an illegal and assisted by 7 other illegals in a state with two Democratic Senators, what can't they control?

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