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02/25/19 at 15:43:27
 
What are some thoughts on Delkevic slip on mufflers?
I know their are a good many who run the  HD Dyna .
I saw a few references to them but just wanted to hear for someone who has one. I see the description reads that no retuning is needed
So dose that mean they may be restrictive.
Just looking for some feed back.
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Reply #1 - 02/25/19 at 17:03:41
 
Do they use them on any of the newer big singles ?
What’s the price ?
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Reply #2 - 02/25/19 at 17:04:44
 
rangeshooter wrote on 02/25/19 at 15:43:27:
I see the description reads that no retuning is needed
So dose that mean they may be restrictive.


A link to what you are talking about always helps. Huh

Most likely they are relying on the fuel injection computer to make corrections......you don't have that luxury.
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Reply #3 - 02/25/19 at 17:48:11
 
https://delkevic.com/

They are made for the S40.
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Reply #4 - 02/25/19 at 17:51:53
 
Price is$234.00-244.00
They say no re jetting needs to be done but recommend a dyno test.
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Reply #5 - 02/25/19 at 19:29:51
 
I put a Supertrapp on my first one.
Awfully expensive
Not worth it
I should have put a Dyna on it and used the money for gas and tires.
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Reply #6 - 02/25/19 at 21:53:39
 
You may want to go back and read the fitment procedure ,where it states that the baffle (which they sell) has to be replaced about every 10,000 miles,  so  damage won't occur to  the inter baffle pipe and outer shell.  My HD Dyna has been in place 4 years ,16.000 miles and I haven't had to look at it .  They can be bought usually for less than $50.00 used, and are heavily chromed and will last many years with no attention, much less the expense and hassle of replacing baffle material. I suspect they use fiberglass (I didn't check) , which means the motor will change tune / get louder,  constantly as it's runs up the miles . It sounds to me to be over priced and under engineered.
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Reply #7 - 02/26/19 at 10:48:50
 
rangeshooter wrote on 02/25/19 at 17:51:53:
They say no re jetting needs to be done but recommend a dyno test.



If you change the exhaust and it doesn't require rejetting, then the only performance gain you achieve is the tiny amount from reducing the weight in your wallet.
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Reply #8 - 02/26/19 at 11:41:24
 
Yep.. pointless from a performance perspective.
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Reply #9 - 02/26/19 at 13:41:11
 
i have the long slash cut one, i have not rejetted and it does not pop more then with stock "little at shutoff and closed throttle"
its pretty loud when you get on it, but at cruising speed my wife can talk to me and i can hear her.  if i remember correct it has several different settings for the loudness by removing adding a deflector in the nose of the muffler.
its also about 1/3 the weight of the stock muffler, it fit perfectly.  
im pretty happy with it, wished it was cheaper.  
not sure if the link will work but this is a very short youtube of my bike with the exhaust fitted. someday ill make a better one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc0pw__WKKI
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Reply #10 - 11/02/24 at 06:10:59
 
hijacking an old thread. currently im rocking a removed baffle stock muffler. amazing around town but annoying on the highway.

is there any major differences between the 16 and 21 inch version of this muffler or is it purely looks?

also, how do you like it on the highway? I like the idea of an adjustable muffler. I can make it quiet for a long trip so I don't have to hear the drone on the highway.
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Reply #11 - 11/02/24 at 09:54:33
 
TheBabyDerp wrote on 11/02/24 at 06:10:59:
hijacking an old thread. currently im rocking a removed baffle stock muffler. amazing around town but annoying on the highway.

is there any major differences between the 16 and 21 inch version of this muffler or is it purely looks?

also, how do you like it on the highway? I like the idea of an adjustable muffler. I can make it quiet for a long trip so I don't have to hear the drone on the highway.


Dredging up old posts.  One of my favorite pass times. I’m not sure anyone has dropped the money on a Delkevic muffler for the Savage.  

As I am to understand it, and I could be wrong — A shorter overall exhaust increases torque at higher RPMs, but a longer exhaust increases torque at lower RPMs.  I think Lancer did some playing around with this.

DragBikeMike’s Muffler Shoot Out on his souped up bike has a lot of good information.  The big takeaway for me wasn’t the length of the exhaust, but rather, the puny 1.3” diameter of the header pipe and “broken dog leg” exhaust port restricted flow.  I think Mike and others have found that 1.3” is too small and 2.0” is too big.  The sweet spot being 1.5”-1.625” ID.  Finding that diameter pipe has proven elusive to me unless you want to pay big bucks and have a custom header made.  MAC Performance may have made one when they were in business, but finding a decent used one hasn’t surfaced anything.

Go with a Dyna is my suggestion.   Self-serving sales pitch — I’ll have a really nice pair in my possession in about a month.  My son-in-law picked them up for me.  I just need to go get ‘em around Thanksgiving.  I really like the way mine turned out especially with a 6” HD heat shield and adapter.
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Reply #12 - 11/02/24 at 11:30:54
 
Yep, replacing the restrictive muffler is good. That is why the Dyna muffler is such a popular choice. It is cheap, easy to adapt, sounds better, and flows much better than the stock muffler. DBM's modified automotive muffler is the next step above that but requires a bit more work. Worth it for the sound and performance though. Sound is similar to the Dyna but louder, and it flows better than the Dyna.

Exhaust pipe length doesn't matter on these when you stick a muffler on the pipe. What does matter is the pipe inside diameter. The stock pipe is too small when you get into more serious performance mods like a bigger bore piston, more compression, hotter cam and port work. RAASK made a 1.5" ID pipe and MAC had the whopping 2" OD x 1.8" ID pipe. As far as I know no one ever made a pipe between those two sizes. Having a custom pipe made up from 1.75" OD tubing will put you in the sweet spot for exhaust velocity for a stock to a fairly hopped up engine. When you tread into DBM territory with engine mods the bigger MAC pipe begins to shine.
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Reply #13 - 11/02/24 at 20:45:14
 
I chose to use the 1.65” ID x 1.75” OD pipe, with a 30” length.
The reason is because of Ed.  Ed started building headers in the 60’s, and based his choice of pipe size and length on drag strip results.  With years of hands on experience he put together a chart for selecting the size needed for a cylinder of a given size and power level.  For our engine and its power level capabilities the header pipe size is best at 1.5-1,65” ID.   The length of the pipe at 30” is generally accepted for engines similar to ours, and varying the length can move the peak power up and down the rpm range.
Ive used a 1.65” ID pipe for several headers, usually with 30” length, however my current pipe is about 33”.  When making this pipe the last 6”  of it was distorted a bit so  cutting it 30”  would have left the end unable to make a good fit and seal with a muffler…so it’s longer.
So Ive used the 1.65” tube for years, I made my first one in the early 2,000’s, and I like it a lot.
When MAC first came out with their 2” pipe and muffler they held a contest on this site, and I won the drawing.  I installed the set, rode it for a while, could not tell a performance difference, maybe less.
I think DragBikeMike used a larger pipe during his series of engine testing.  I believe he may have had better results.
Another resource I’ve used is a book on Engine Performance by an Automotive Engineer, whose career was with the big 3 US auto makers.  He designed engines.  He said the internal volume of a muffler should be the same volume in a cylinder, and the Dyna muffler we use so often is pretty close to that volume.  An R&D test muffler I got years ago works great on my engine. (Yep, it was designed for HD’s).  It is quite loud though.  (Versey can tell you about that).  They work well and make good sound.
The authors stated primary goal when building an engine is to maximize Efficiency.
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Reply #14 - 11/03/24 at 04:29:40
 
Thanks for joining the conversation Fast650 and LANCER!

Lancer - I saw the post about you winning the big 2” Big MAC.  Unless you have a super souped up bike like DBM’s, it’s too big.

Both of y’all have mentioned that a header diameter in the neighborhood of 1.75” OD (call it 1.63” ID) is pretty ideal for a stock to “lightly modified” LS650.  I certainly believe y’all with your experience and DBM’s conclusion that the 2” MAC could even be too big for his hot rod.

Lancer - Did you custom make your header?  I wish I could find a shop or someone that wouldn’t charge a small fortune!

I found this nice 1.75” OD x 38” stainless steel pipe (presumably about 1.63” ID).  Hacking it down to 30-33” wouldn’t be terribly hard, but then can it be bent with a mandrel bender?  I kinda put this whole idea in the back of my mind until I saw this post (now I’m thinking about it again).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087TTBDNX/?coliid=I1VTCTQ1BZ359K&colid=1CBXBA6JVIT...
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