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Re: Hello from southern AZ (USA)
Reply #15 - 07/07/19 at 06:03:45

No, they have always had belt drives on the 650 Savage.

Yes to having different model numbers over the years, but the basic bike hasn't changed in the entire time, but some parts have shifted over time. Example, the new rocker arm cam pads have a hard block inserted in them now because the composition of motor oil has changed over the years.

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DesertCat Full Member Offline Posts: 192	Re: Hello from southern AZ (USA) Reply #16 - 07/07/19 at 06:10:59 @Oldfeller Thanks! I see where the transmission was changed from a 4-speed to a 5-speed in 1993.
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DesertCat Full Member Offline Posts: 192	Re: Hello from southern AZ (USA) Reply #17 - 07/07/19 at 06:31:57 I was reading that the LS650 had a trip odometer but this photo doesn't show it ???
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Reply #18 - 07/07/19 at 08:18:03

Never has had a trip meter , (we would all have loved one) 1996 and newer bikes have anti kickback gear installed in the starter drive assy to prevent damage . later bikes have ,passing light switch, and hazard (4 way) warning lights , and turn signals have been changed thru the years. I believe the hardened rockers came in 2005 to date.
It was nice to hear that the bike was changed to a 5 speed in 93 as I had no knowledge of that date, the bikes were not sold in the US market between 88 and their reintroduction in 95.

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Reply #19 - 07/07/19 at 08:40:51

batman wrote on 07/07/19 at 08:18:03:

Never has had a trip meter , (we would all have loved one) 1996 and newer bikes have anti kickback gear installed in the starter drive assy to prevent damage . later bikes have ,passing light switch, and hazard (4 way) warning lights , and turn signals have been changed thru the years. I believe the hardened rockers came in 2005 to date.
It was nice to hear that the bike was changed to a 5 speed in 93 as I had no knowledge of that date, the bikes were not sold in the US market between 88 and their reintroduction in 95.

Thank you!

I can deal with that. My more modern bikes have everything under the Sun in the "cockpit" -- way too much crap for me.

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Reply #20 - 07/09/19 at 09:40:42

I believe they started in the USA in 1986 and were called "SAVAGE" or LS-650 .

My first one was a LS-650 Savage (1996) .

The one I have now is a S-40 (2005) ,

They have always been belt drive , the belt drive and single traditional carb. is what made me look at them in the first place.

There are faster bikes out there but who wants a chain once you've had a BELT ? Huh

Well on a 125cc dirt bike a chain might be OK ? Grin

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Reply #21 - 07/09/19 at 10:18:12

MMRanch wrote on 07/09/19 at 09:40:42:

I believe they started in the USA in 1986 and were called "SAVAGE" or LS-650 .

My first one was a LS-650 Savage (1996) .

The one I have now is a S-40 (2005) ,

They have always been belt drive , the belt drive and single traditional carb. is what made me look at them in the first place.

There are faster bikes out there but who wants a chain once you've had a BELT ? Huh

Well on a 125cc dirt bike a chain might be OK ? Grin

I've had belt-drive bikes, about 7 of them. Never had a problem -- almost maintenance-free.

BTW, I've struck a deal to buy a 2012 LS650 on Thursday morning, two days from now. I'll let you know what I think after my first ride. I've never ridden one before.

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DesertCat Full Member Offline Posts: 192	Re: Hello from southern AZ (USA) Reply #22 - 07/10/19 at 18:06:13 Looks like it will be another couple of weeks before I get the bike (2012). The seller lost the title and has to get a replacement from the CA DMV.
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DesertCat Full Member Offline Posts: 192	Re: Hello from southern AZ (USA) Reply #24 - 07/10/19 at 20:07:38 I'm also looking at a 2017 LS650.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Hello from southern AZ (USA) Reply #25 - 07/10/19 at 20:12:46 Cool, you've got options.
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DesertCat Full Member Offline Posts: 192	Re: Hello from southern AZ (USA) Reply #26 - 07/10/19 at 20:16:33 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/10/19 at 20:12:46: Cool, you've got options. Some. They aren't the most common used bike for sale. In the entire Tucson and Phoenix area there are only about 3-4 for sale.
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MMRanch Serious Thumper Offline Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 6023 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	Re: Hello from southern AZ (USA) Reply #27 - 07/10/19 at 20:58:40 Think about this : The LS-650 has a 33 year production run ... What other machine can even come close to that ? The Royal Enfield 500 had a longer run but its now been replaced by the new RE-500 unit construction engine. The Honda 50cc engine has been around a L-O-N-G --- T-I-M-E others I don't know about ?
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DesertCat Full Member Offline Posts: 192	Re: Hello from southern AZ (USA) Reply #28 - 07/10/19 at 21:06:10 The H-D Sportster has been in continuous production since 1957 -- that's 62 years. Of course, the Sportster has changed/improved over the years.
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Reply #29 - 07/10/19 at 21:20:54

yea , I've had 2 Sportsters , in 2004 when they finally wised up and rubber mounted the motor I got a 1200cc but apparently the crankshaft was intended for the 3" pistons not the 3.5" of the 1200cc . So next time I got the 3" piston model (883) and it worked perfect till about 50K miles when it began "weeping" oil out of every gasket it had. I found out about the Guzzi V-7 about that time , it has a long history and is in the V-7III version now .

The original V-twin was designed in the early 1960s by engineer Giulio Cesare Carcano, designer of the DOHC V8 Grand Prix racer. The air-cooled, longitudinal crankshaft, transverse cylinder, pushrod V-twin began life with 700 cc displacement and 45 hp (34 kW)
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coming up on 60 years .

The Sportster has changed a whole lot over the years , not only in motor size . Some of the hard core Harley Types "spit" at the new type "evelo" motors.

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