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Reply #15 - 08/07/19 at 17:54:05
 
Ah.....

I really watered mine a lot...twice a day, but again, they are on the deck in a pot, they say keep the soil moist.....
I use to let it dry out before I watered, because of skin split, but not anymore...lots of drainage is paramount, don't want rot.
This is the best I've ever done, following that procedure  Smiley
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Reply #16 - 08/07/19 at 21:03:45
 
Nothing better than a toasted Engish Muffin, a little salt, pepper and mayo. You could add a bit, just a couple slices of very thin extra sharp chedder.
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Reply #17 - 08/08/19 at 07:54:59
 

Let's see, today for lunch we have selected tomatoes cut into thick BLT slices, bacon and lettuce and mayo and salt and pepper.   Yum.

Wife put up 4 bags of split tomatoes off of what you saw in the picture and cut the herd down by about 75% by sorting out the perfect slicing tomatoes to give away and putting up all the ripe ready to go split boys.

People ask her (as she goes round giving away tomatoes) "Can you have too many tomatoes?".   Her answer is "Only temporarily".

She can see the last of the plants maturing into production and she knows first frost is inside 2-3 months from now.   When the plants get frost killed, the last of the tomatoes will ripen on the vines quite quickly and it will all get pulled up for restructuring for next year.

Next year I am going to go with drip style ribbon irrigation system and a thick tar paper ground cover over the irrigation system.   Right now I am looking for fertilizer sub-system that will use cheap solid granular fertilizers in a split feed system that puts goodies into the water at reasonable rates as the plants get watered.

I currently have about 60 plants in total, and I find that just watering the stupid things up to twice a day eats up too much time and the physicality of pulling 100ft of hose around is a lot of work for a creaky old man.

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Reply #18 - 08/08/19 at 08:12:02
 
Yeah...my 2 takes up time  Grin

And you got 60 OMG  Shocked

A picture of mine, the only problem I have is staking, they outgrew the cage long time ago....

Have you ever topped a tomato plant to keep in lower and bushier?



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Reply #19 - 08/08/19 at 08:23:09
 
Warn tomato salad ;   cut the top away , mix 1/3, olive oil/shaker cheese/ bread crumbs -spread on top , place under broiler  until slightly browned /warmed -serve cutting in pie shaped pieces.
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Reply #20 - 08/08/19 at 08:45:50
 
My wife really likes this, I do too.....just don't skimp on the balsamic, buy a good brand, thick and flavorful  Grin

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Reply #21 - 08/08/19 at 09:48:52
 

Some of mine are in my cages from years past.   Tomato plants always outgrow the cages and fold over then go down to the ground and start going up again when the suckers sprout out again.

I have a few that have hit the ground and I put a shovel of dirt on the upright sucker protrusion point and I got a brand new plant from it with it still getting support from the old plant.

Tomatoes grown in a field get no support, they run along the ground and put up vertical suckers that hold the new blooms up off the ground.   They will send out roots at these points and make functional new plants each time.

Ya got a pretty plant there.   My soil is Piedmont sandhills style sandy and poor, so it it wasn't for watering and fertilizing I'd get nothing for tomatoes.

Drip irrigation and "fertilizer in the water" simply makes labor saving sense for me, so I will go that route as it means the one time investment will allow me to make 'maters for the Missus right on out until I get too old to stir outside.





...... and here are the caged tomato plants outgrowing their cages already ......

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Reply #22 - 08/08/19 at 10:07:51
 

Here are the ones growing along the fence.
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Reply #23 - 08/08/19 at 10:10:40
 
If your plan is to introduce fertilizer in that canister, with potable water running through it, make darn certain you have in line prior to your equipment back-flow protection.....

If you are just coming off a hose bib, do not rely on the built in vacuum breaker many have built into them.....

The back-flow preventer needs to be a minimum of 6 inches above any equipment, you have attached downstream to that potable water line.  
Also leave a air break/gap from its outlet to the planter/ground....
In other words, do NOT run it through a soaker hose along the ground, to feed your plants.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask, I see more cross connections, contamination, from folks gardening at home, than I do in any other situation....

Lets say if you put your system on something similar to lawn sprinklers with a timer and solenoid valve, that physically air break, air gap, needs to be higher than any other part of the "system" by 6 inches...ok?

Yeah...your soil looks like crap.....sorry.

Raise your beds and isolate your soil from that crap, or it will suck out all your water and fertilizer to no avail.....

I am blessed with good loam, it grows stuff want you don't want it too  Grin   
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Reply #24 - 08/08/19 at 10:24:05
 

Got a fine mesh home supply filter rig, then a anti-backflow valve, then a pressure reducer (15 psi) then a single station programmable timer, then a hose going over and down to the fertilizer injector rig mounted on a board then going down and out to the 1/2" low pressure lines and the long drip tubes at just under ground level.

I will learn as I go, I suspect, but there is lots & lots of info on the net about this stuff.

All those tomato plants are actually sucker clones from the first 3 plants I bought early last spring --- yes, sucker cloning works and you can even sucker clone determinate varieties as long as you take a fresh sucker from before they grow their terminal set of blossoms.

Hybrids will lose their vigor once cloned 2-3 times in a row, which is why (along with the better taste) "disease improved" heirloom tomatoes are so very popular among us hobby type tomato growers.  

You can sucker clone and take seeds from an heirloom variety endlessly (intentionally picking from the strongest best tasting plants that you have grown -- the ones that best fit the environment you live in) and some of the best of the heirloom varieties have disease resistances that have been bred into them over the years.

Flavor is why heirloom varieties are still out there going strong after the 50 years or so of hybrid mania .....   I will be planting some 1910-1930s varieties right along with stuff the pioneers moved across the country that originated in Europe (3 steps from Africa and the Middle East via Italy and France).

Cherokee Purple is one I will grow on the shady side of the back yard in 2020 (origin, NC mountains) along with Black Krim (Crimean Russian origins, supposedly).   These do well in partial shade as most tomatoes do not like it too shady.  

I will also grow Arkansas Traveler out in the hot full sun, a heat setting friendly very good tasting but smaller sized numerically prolific domestic environmentally tuned take on another old world class classic.

Huge, big tomato for a big sandwich slice, I will do Mortgage Lifter and Beefsteak and I will also do its very round (improved shape) daughter, Delicious, a Chicago World's Fair winner from WW1 era.   These are "not for volume production for the freezer" maters as you only get 1-2 really big ones and then a handful of runts off of a vine.   I get so tired of finding lots of mid sized tomatoes that when they run to the runt they get sorta useless.   My poor soil contributes to this runt problem, I think.



When I throw a runt off of this one, it will still be pretty good sized.
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Reply #25 - 08/08/19 at 14:36:18
 
Sounds good, make sure the pressure reducing valve comes after the backflow preventer...btw, its anti siphon or back flow preventer, NOT, a anti back flow preventer, that counters out what you are trying to accomplish   Grin

You know way more about tomatoes than me...I just love the ones that have juice, when you eat them....and that is what got me started growing them.
I started blueberries this year too, its amazing how different plants offer such a different and distinct taste......
I think anything on a vine is better if picked fresh at its peak, and then devoured  Grin  
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Reply #26 - 08/13/19 at 07:40:40
 

I think my wife is fairly happy with her maters.  

She wants to go picking with me every morning when it is still cool, then she sorts out the pretty ones for sandwich slicing while she is washing them and then lays aside the somewhat pretty ones to be given away to her buds.   Then she scalds and chunks and baggies all the split ones, the ill shaped ones and all the runt ones that are ripe enough to go into the hot water.  

She will cut and salvage up to a 50% of damaged tomato, since it is going to be cooked down into a sauce or a tomato casserole anyway.   If it has started to rot or spoil anywhere, it goes into the trash as we got lots of maters and certainly got no need to take any risks.

She says we can likely do with 40 plants, 60 is a bit much.   I point out that the original 20 and the next 20 have gone through their bearing cycle pretty much at this point in time and we only have ever had 20-40 plants actually making maters at any given time during the year.

Her "head and shoulders above the crowd" favorite is Better Boy, simply because it is exactly what she buys from the grocery store and it tastes exactly like a tomato to her  ........ duh .......    

I strongly suspect she will want predominately Better Boys next year as she likes what she likes, but I will stick in some experimental types just to see what they do.
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Reply #27 - 08/20/19 at 16:55:43
 
My old lady has been bringing in cherry tomatoes by the bucket load each week. Her vines went hulk this summer. We can't eat and give them away fast enough. Tasty little suckers too. I think they're called midnights, they start out black and later on just some black on top.
I haven't eaten so many cherry tomatoes in my life.
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Reply #28 - 08/20/19 at 18:18:42
 

We are in post wave production now, just tag end singles coming ripe by 1-2 a day.

I still have 20 fresh clone plants that haven born a tomato yet, just blossoms and pearl sized maters but now we are in the last month and a half before the first frost of winter, so the next wave of production is the last wave for this year.

Wife is sad, she liked her tomatoes.   She has a freezer load of them too.   I tease her about not being able to use all the frozen ones in the 6 months of winter and she laughs at me.

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Reply #29 - 08/22/19 at 20:17:25
 

Eating breakfast at Chick-fil-a few days ago while my wife was passing out the day's not-too-ugly freebee maters and one of the post office folks that is there every morning before work starts waxing prolific about this miracle tomato that her granny grew and one of her aunts still grows today, a wonderful dark skinned tomato that had by far the very best taste of any mater she ever had ever since then (as it is only available from her aunt now).  

Sounded familiar, so I carried in my seed packet for next year.    She acted like a family member had risen up from the grave to come see her Christmas morning and offered to buy me next year's sack of fertilizer if we could supply her with some of these puppies occasionally.



I told her not to bother, we planned to grow some anyway over on the shady side of the fence as Cherokee Purple was developed in Amerindian garden patches which are always shady.   We won't plant all that many, as they like to throw runts (apparently like all natural tomatoes will do) ...... which is why I will plant mostly the largest 1-2 pound tomato types that will still throw a fair sized tomato as their runt size.  

I get a lot of runts in my tomato patch due to the poor soil .....  so I will combat this tendency by planting bigger varieties of maters, so the runts will at least be worth picking.


This one is called Mortgage Lifter




This one is called Giant Oxheart


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