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MM's next Moto Guzzi
10/25/19 at 19:38:55
 
Here is MM's next project - a V8 Guzzi!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cdVsfirEzQ
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Reply #1 - 10/25/19 at 20:40:58
 
Roll Eyes

I don't know Dave ... Those Mufflers look almost too short ???   Huh

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https://www.cyclenews.com/2019/05/article/2019-moto-guzzi-v85tt-first-review/

I'd like this ... sort of ... 80Hp and 90% of it is available as low as 3750 rpm.    But it might be a little tall for my getting one ?   The 84mm bore and 77 stroke , and two valve/cylinder the the same as my V-9 Roamer , but I suspect the cam is different ?

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This is what the Honda African Twin might have been , but this one is SHAFT DRIVE .
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Reply #2 - 10/25/19 at 20:42:00
 
Should I go find a, er.....different one, again?  Wink

One that is SURE to get Dave's link to work  Grin
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Reply #3 - 10/25/19 at 22:40:56
 
Oh , the link worked for me , I watched 30 + mins. of monster motors on two wheels.   Kinda scary to look at , One little slip on a gravel and you call a crane to come get ya back upright !  .  Did ya ever ride a big butt Harley through a newly graveled parking lot ?  
I did ride a Honda 1100 on a gravel/dirt road down a mountain once and it wasn't so bad .   But it wasn't really heavy ?  Smiley

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Reply #4 - 10/26/19 at 05:02:39
 
MM:

Those big adventure touring bikes are a unique breed.....but somehow I suspect you and I are just a bit "too compact" to be good riders on them.  One of the local fellows just bought one of those Moto Guzzi V85TT bikes....he traded in his older Moto Guzzi Stelvio to get rid of some excess bike weight.  He is about 6 feet tall and over 200 pounds, and I believe all the big adventure touring bikes are built for riders that have inseam lengths of 34" or more.

I am sure I would get into trouble if I owned something like that, as my "dirt riding" experience is on motorcycles that weigh less than 250 pounds and can easily be set upright or ridden back down off a steep hill if you didn't make it up - trying to do that on a 600 pound motorcycle could probably get you in big trouble.  My friend was riding on a US Forest road in VA and he is in excellent rider - but his BMW R1000GS bike took and evil hop and slammed him into an embankment.  The ambulance had to go 5 miles up the road to pick him up, the bike had to be retrieved by a wrecker, he broke his collar bone and was badly bruised, the VA State Patrol showed up at the hospital and wrote him a ticket for "Wreckless Driving"......and the insurance company totaled his bike (he denied filing a claim and spent about $400 fixing it.....the darn insurance company claimed his bike was only worth $1,400 when you can't find a used one for less than $5,000).

So.....it is my belief that big adventure touring bikes are good for riding on paved and gravel roads - but if you want to ride on trails get a light single cylinder bike like a DR650...or the smaller adventure touring bikes like the BMW F800GS.
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Reply #5 - 10/26/19 at 07:39:18
 
I've taken my 450+ lbs Ducati off-road many times.
One day along the powerlines I tried to cross a tiny little stream about 2-3" deep and roughly 4.5 feet across. The bottom was muddy and had deep truck ruts through it. The ruts were maybe 5-6" deep.
I thought hey I got knobby tires so I can skirt around the side of a rut.
Instead the big heavy bike succumbed to gravity and slid right into the rut, knobby tires be darned.
What a time I had getting the thing out of that rut. A light little dirtbike would have laughed it off or never slip in in the 1st place.
At 1st I tried to use power. Hey I've got 110HP I can motor my way out.
On my 2nd or 3rd try I got most of the way out but then found traction in harder soil beneath the mud and torque twisted the bike hard to the right. Over we went into the mud. I found myself pinned under the thing with the header pipe slow cooking my thigh. Couldn't lift it more than a couple inches because of limited reach from my prone position. But it's mud so I did my impression of an earthworm and wriggled my way out. Went around the other side where footing was better and with much grunting got the bike upright. It was tough and I was winded from the exertion. But before I could catch my breath my feet started sliding out from under me because it's mud.
Now we went over the other direction but I managed not to get pinned this time. Back to square one.
With much more heaving and huffing I got it back up again. This time my back was hurting and my muscles got kind of rubbery. My heart rate was way up and I was sweating profusely. It was July and quite hot and humid. My feet slid out again.... Angry
Totally out of breath now so just sat in the stream recovering. At last I took another shot. I wrestled and cursed and this time the progress was much slower. And hurt twice as much. Veins in my head were throbbing and a headache came on. But I got it up. I knew if it went down again I wouldn't be able to lift it again. I would need help or a wrecker. This time once was up I quckly started the motor and under power I walked the bike further down the patch of the rut. I got it to a point beyond the stream into the grass and rreeds where eventually it got stuck in more clay like mud. At this point I could let go because the muddy rut could hold the bike up for me now that it was deeper, narrower and sided by harder earth.
I walked around weighing my options awhile and catching my breath. I hurt everywhere now. All my joints were complaining loudly.

Finally I power walked the bike further down the rut and into taller reeds which I hoped had enough roots to make the earth firmer. And sure enough it paid off. I managed to power the bike up and out of the rut now that it had measure of traction.

But I had to go back the way I came because the powerlines road dead ended at the interstate where it was all fenced in. This meant going back through the stream again.
So I picked a line in the dead middle between the ruts and got the bike up to about 18 MPH. Splashed right through the deepest and widest part like it was a puddle. The bottom turned out to be harder there. I discovered this while wallowing around in the water earlier.

I went home and bandaged my leg and then tended to the bike.
Left hand guard cracked up and right mirror shattered like an egg.

Got a takeoff mirror from a guy on the Ducati forum for $15 but the only option for the handguard was to buy it new for some exorbitant amount and wait a month for it to ship from Spaghettiland.
Hot glue gun to the rescue. After 2 years that guard is still holding up too.

This all could have easily cost me a bunch more money in parts and repairs. Possibly a trip to the ER. And then the scary possibility of law enforcement if I'd had to call the wrecker. Around here the cops impound the bikes of riders caught on the powerlines. Scary crap.

I play it much safer now and have plans to just get a cheap 250cc dual sport for mucking around in the woods.
Let this be a precautionary tale for those wanting to take big ADV bikes down trails.
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Reply #6 - 10/26/19 at 08:14:59
 
I would say the biggest cause of crashing your bike out here was gravel on the road....
We have no curbs, and lots of blind curves.
Vehicles cut those corners tossing crap onto the road, you are 30/40 and already leaning, not much you can do....

I use to get razed cuz my tired worn thin, dead center.....

I never fell  Grin
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