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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Royal Enfield 500CC 11/03/19 at 16:27:52 Has anyone on the board tried one in the past 5 years? I'm looking for a single and, in my 70's, the savage is getting a bit hearvy
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Re: Royal Enfield 500CC
Reply #1 - 11/03/19 at 17:00:55

Trippah wrote on 11/03/19 at 16:27:52:

Has anyone on the board tried one in the past 5 years? I'm looking for a single and, in my 70's, the savage is getting a bit hearvy Shocked

I've never ridden one, so I don't know what one feels like compared to a Savage in terms of weight, but I looked at the RE website and the wet weight of a 500 Classic is 195 KG. That's 430#, so it heavier than a Savage.

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MMRanch Serious Thumper Offline Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 6023 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Reply #2 - 11/03/19 at 19:49:16 I find the Honda 300 Rebel (370 lbs) appealing but its chain drive ... with modern "O-ring" chains and only 300cc ... the chain might not be a problem ? The S-40 is what I'm keeping for an "Old Man" bike check this out ! Any thing lighter than this and you'll be ordering from China. https://clevelandcyclewerks.com/ccwbikes-1/
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Re: Royal Enfield 500CC
Reply #3 - 11/03/19 at 23:00:19

From one old man (75) to another, out of shape and overweight, I own 2 S40s, one standard and one hotrod. The S40 is the perfect 'old man' bike.
This website has a lot of people who have modded their bikes, dropping weight in the process. Perfect winter project !
1 smaller rear tire 5lbs
2 dyna muffler 5lbs
3 toss rear fender 10lbs
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Re: Royal Enfield 500CC
Reply #4 - 11/04/19 at 02:02:32

The Honda Rebel 500 is 408 pounds - but to get a bit less weight than the Savage you will need to drop down to the Rebel 300 at 360 pounds.

The 500 would likely have more power and speed the Savage as it is a twin - the 300 will likely have less power than you would find satisfying and will not likely be able to travel at interstate speeds.

Finding a modern motorcycle that is capable of highway speeds and weighs less than a Savage is going to be tough.

The Buell Blast only weighs 360 pounds, and there are a lot of good low mileage once still out there that are cheap.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buell_Blast

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Re: Royal Enfield 500CC
Reply #5 - 11/04/19 at 04:25:01

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Finding a modern motorcycle that is capable of highway speeds and weighs less than a Savage is going to be tough.

There are a few, but they probably are not very appealing to those of us who are attracted to more old school styling and simple maintenance..

The KTM 390 Duke for example. 40+ hp, about 320# curb weight, top speed a bit over 100.
But it's a naked sport bike.

https://www.ktm.com/us/naked/390-duke/

MSRP is less than a brand new S40 too.

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zipidachimp Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1459 surrey, b.c. Gender:	Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Reply #6 - 11/04/19 at 11:15:28 try riding any Duke for longer than 5 minutes with 70-75 year old knees, no way! ps; this whizbang Duke qualifies for lowest insurance cost due to being under 400cc ! perfect squid bike!
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Reply #7 - 11/04/19 at 11:31:30

I test rode the Royal Enfield Himalayan, 411cc- it felt torque-free, anemic, and insubstantial. A different bike, for sure, but speaking to the whole lighter bike topic, I wanted something that I might have a chance from crawling out from under adventuring. If slow zombies were chasing me, I'd be glad to have it. Very slow zombies. Its full-throttle speed just scratched 70 mph for me.

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springman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2246 Spring, Texas Gender:	Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Reply #8 - 11/04/19 at 14:56:13 Thanks for the input on the RE Mavi. I have to admit I have ogled the RE online also. I don't believe I would want anything slower than the Savage.
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springman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2246 Spring, Texas Gender:	Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Reply #9 - 11/04/19 at 14:57:14 Hey, where did you get to ride the Himalayan? I have yet to see one in person.
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Mavigogun Serious Thumper Offline We roll farther together Posts: 775 Progressive Texas	Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Reply #10 - 11/04/19 at 15:50:05 You can take one for a spin at Polaris, in Katy. Give 'em a call first so they can prep the bike and have a ride along on hand.
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Re: Royal Enfield 500CC
Reply #11 - 11/05/19 at 07:04:07

I had the Rebel before the Savage, the smaller twin, I had to ride it hard, be very active shifting, to get it to perform safely, in traffic, etc....

It was new, went through valve guides twice, under warranty, took weeks and no commuter bike.....that was a major bummer.

Traded it in for the savage, no comparison power wise, and I think the savage is better balanced, lower center of gravity, the torque was the only learning curve......

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Mavigogun Serious Thumper Offline We roll farther together Posts: 775 Progressive Texas	Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Reply #12 - 11/05/19 at 07:08:47 Polaris tried to get me on a traded-in Rebel while I was there trying out the REH. It had some sex appeal, but was heavy and expensive. When you say "no comparison power wise" and "the torque was the only learning curve", do you mean the S40 has remarkably less of either?
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Re: Royal Enfield 500CC
Reply #13 - 11/05/19 at 07:49:04

No, the savage is a better performing bike, with less driving, to keep it in its optimal performance curve....

Not sure if I am explaining it right, but I could relax more on the savage, and still had options to avoid any given threat, like just a twist on the throttle, instead of downshifting, to get more power to get out of the way, etc....

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Armen Serious Thumper Offline Half-Witted Wrench-Jockey from Jersey Posts: 1454	Re: Royal Enfield 500CC Reply #14 - 11/05/19 at 08:05:02 Easy to knock 10s of pounds off a Savage. Rode a few of the RE 500 singles, and one twin. Twin was nice. Singles were raw sewage.
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