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Reply #45 - 01/13/20 at 06:28:59
 
Eegore wrote on 01/12/20 at 16:32:14:
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Interesting comment.

Perhaps it would be beneficial to ask one of your students that you often speak of.

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Reply #46 - 01/13/20 at 07:31:06
 

"Interesting comment.

Perhaps it would be beneficial to ask one of your students that you often speak of."


 It's a rehabilitation program and it is not active 365 days a year.  The program restarts, given it is allowed to continue, on March 01.

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Reply #47 - 01/13/20 at 08:19:02
 
Eegore wrote on 01/12/20 at 23:45:30:
 I am and I was very clear about that.  I have read thousands of forensic reports, sat in on hundreds of autopsies.  How many have you been involved in?  
 



With that extensive experience you really don't care to comment on issues that do not support your positions.....

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Reply #48 - 01/13/20 at 09:05:45
 
"With that extensive experience you really don't care to comment on issues that do not support your positions....."

 What do you mean?

 My hypothesis, based off of my experience, is that most forensic pathologists will not make a conclusive statement on a body they can not see for themselves.  I've seen this in court for years.  I've seen many "inconclusive" results from hands on examinations.  If a number of inconclusive results come from person-to-body examinations I would assume that even more inconclusive results come from person-to-60 Minutes TV show examinations.  

 But I don't know, I am just providing a hypothesis, which is exactly what you are doing as well.

 Do I think that some will agree with you?  Yes I do.  Is that the comment you are looking for?

 Again, these people do not work for me.  I can request a brief, plain-language assessment.  That's it.  If I don't get enough to create an educated assessment I won't.  If that's bothering you I don't know what to tell you.

 We all know that if I post results that don't coincide with certain beliefs then the accusation will be that I am withholding those assessments.
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Reply #49 - 01/13/20 at 09:09:44
 

"If that’s the case, we’re into 9/11 conspiracy territory and just so you know, this is where logic goes to die."

 Hey, take a closer look at that ear.  That should be proof that an Epstein body double was used, that his entire social group, family, employer etc.. have been paid off or murdered so nobody brings up he's gone.

 Besides there would be zero consequences if the Real Epstein was found alive.  He probably just had his face swapped and his DNA genetically altered like they do in the movies.
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Reply #50 - 01/13/20 at 09:16:09
 
My hypothesis, based off of my experience, is that most forensic pathologists will not make a conclusive statement on a body they can not see for themselves.

If we could only get journalist, to adapt such constraints..........   Embarrassed

When you have the highest elected official in our system of governing, tried, by veiled accusation, and witnesses paraded out, to testify (with) the same, without ever seeing the body of evidence.....

Well....why do I even waste my time typing this  Embarrassed

 
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Reply #51 - 01/13/20 at 09:31:51
 

"When you have the highest elected official in our system of governing, tried, by veiled accusation, and witnesses paraded out, to testify (with) the same, without ever seeing the body of evidence"

 Impeachment is not an enforcement of criminal law so I wouldn't expect due process.
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Reply #52 - 01/13/20 at 09:37:57
 
Eegore wrote on 01/13/20 at 09:31:51:
"When you have the highest elected official in our system of governing, tried, by veiled accusation, and witnesses paraded out, to testify (with) the same, without ever seeing the body of evidence"

 Impeachment is not an enforcement of criminal law so I wouldn't expect due process.


WTF......where did I say it was criminal.....?????

HEY ALL let's just form a consensus, and declare eegore as irreverent, and a waste of time.

It is obvious, so therefore we can attach the word, truth, to it, as factual, he has no real desire for honest debate, or enlightenment....  

You are guilty as charged!

But again, you don't come around here because you care what anyone thinks....gotcha.
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Reply #53 - 01/13/20 at 10:32:00
 
"WTF......where did I say it was criminal.....?????"

 Tried by veiled accusation, to me, sounds like parameters for the enforcement of criminal law, not municipal.


"But again, you don't come around here because you care what anyone thinks....gotcha"

 Not what I said, so again....  I very specifically was discussing the use of personal insults with the exclusion of all other topics.  Personal insults.  I was talking about personal insults.
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Reply #54 - 01/13/20 at 15:01:53
 
Insult come,s from Latin insultare ‘jump or trample on.

And we don,t do that any more.

Am I still on topic?  Smiley
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Reply #55 - 01/13/20 at 15:22:25
 
I would like to know if he has a foot shaped bruise on his back?
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Reply #56 - 01/16/20 at 15:54:53
 
Former New York City Medical Examiner Dr. Michael Baden discusses his theories and examines graphic photographs.

Among them are the burst capillaries and the fact that Epstein’s lower extremities were pale and not purple or bluish, which he said would have been the case had he hanged himself in August at the Manhattan Correctional Center.

“The blood settles after we die. The so-called lividity, if you’re hanging, the lividity is on the lower part on the legs. These would be like maroon/purple, front and back and they aren’t,” Baden.


https://nypost.com/2020/01/16/disturbing-evidence-in-jeffrey-epsteins-autopsy...

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Reply #57 - 01/16/20 at 15:55:52
 
@Eegore, please feel free to comment on the so-called lividity.....


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Reply #58 - 01/16/20 at 17:40:24
 
"@Eegore, please feel free to comment on the so-called lividity...."

 I don't have a comment regarding lividity.  As I said I will refer to professionals in the field, and use multiple resources to develop an opinion.  The difference here being I have not made up my mind prior to evidence being presented.

 What I do not think happened was two guys snuck into the prison, murdered Epstein while the two staff, on camera, were forced to go on a smoke break that they refuse to bring up at the cost of their careers and freedoms.  

 I also do not think a body double was murdered and the Real Epstein is alive somewhere out in the world based off of one picture of an ear.  
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Reply #59 - 01/16/20 at 17:48:28
 
How many pictures of an ear with obviously different cartilage structure would you need?
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