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Reply #30 - 05/14/20 at 21:59:31
 
$US 4160 per annum, what's your utilities bill for a year?
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Reply #31 - 05/14/20 at 23:23:13
 
philthymike wrote on 05/09/20 at 08:26:40:
...that's encouraged me to finally just quit smoking for once and for all.

Currently I'm down to roughly 4 cigarettes per day


There's your problem right there. You're bullsh!tting yourself. Either stop or don't, the choice is yours to make. Making a post about it is just more bullsh!tting.
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Reply #32 - 05/15/20 at 05:21:49
 
Woke up with no urge to smoke this morning. Tried to smoke anyway out of habit and didn't want it. Put it out after two drags.
Think I've turned a corner here!
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Reply #33 - 05/15/20 at 13:00:03
 
That's great , stay focused now !
Just in time eau de sausage is preparing some heavy doses of tough love !
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Reply #34 - 05/15/20 at 16:34:33
 
Well I'll tell you how I did it but it probably won't work for you. It took me almost a year to quit after multiple attempts. I was a heavy smoker , 3 packs a day, for about five years back in the early 80's.
  I switched over to the Merit lights, don't know if they are even still around but they were like smoking cardboard, it made smoking less pleasant.
 Every time I lit up I also asked myself If I really wanted the butt or was it just a nervous habit.
    I would also make myself cough when smoking as a negative reinforcement.
 Was at a buddy's bar one night and ran out of Merits so bought and smokes most of a pack of Lucky Strikes. Think I got a case of nicotine poisoning along with a real good hang over. Couldn't eve look at a butt for about three days and I ran with it.
  Had to change a lot of behavior, no bars, no drinking which was a trigger and I was miserable for about six months. Had to stay away from a lot of my friends who were smokers because they were triggers. My life style changed because of quitting, it was all I really thought about.
  The hardest time was about six weeks into the quit after the physical addiction had past but the nervous need for a butt to fill up time became almost unbearable, boredom is your enemy keep your hands and mind busy. Most people who quit fall off the wagon around that time. Tighten your resolve for when the craving returns.
I also ate a lot of grapes and apples that year. Also smoked a little pot
 It's been over 45 years since I last smoked, no cigars, no pipes and no butts and I still miss it. Have some friends who keep trying to get me back with cigars, guess the don't understand.
 The first morning cigarette with a good cup of coffee while watching a sun rise is the thing I miss the most. They will always be with you if you quit and if  you can't kick them they will kill you.
 Don't know if this helped, I don't talk about what it took for me to quit much. The path I took was a hard path but quitting any addiction is brutal.
 Don't give up, even a moment of weakness doesn't mean failure, we are all human. Keep at it and don't stop.
   
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Reply #35 - 05/15/20 at 19:14:52
 
Ok, how about you will die an early death?  I've known two people who died in their mid fifties and two others who died in their mid sixties.  One other one is didn't make it to sixty and has a permanent disability.
YMMV.....

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Reply #36 - 05/15/20 at 19:49:50
 
Great that you are doing this. Even cutting way back is huge. Puritanical ranting aside, anyone can see that a few cigs a week are better than multiple packs a day.
One of my buds quit again recently, and decided to paint the house. Just seeing the stains on all the inside walls was enough to gross him out and help him stay quit.
Hopefully you can quit altogether.
So glad I never started.
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Reply #37 - 05/16/20 at 06:45:12
 
eau de sauvage wrote on 05/14/20 at 23:23:13:
philthymike wrote on 05/09/20 at 08:26:40:
...that's encouraged me to finally just quit smoking for once and for all.

Currently I'm down to roughly 4 cigarettes per day


There's your problem right there. You're bullsh!tting yourself. Either stop or don't, the choice is yours to make. Making a post about it is just more bullsh!tting.


Just outright quitting isn't feasible unless I can be put into a rubber room wearing a straight jacket for a month. Trust me you would not appreciate how I behave when I don't get enough nicotine. I start tearing people's heads off and crapping down their necks just for looking at me wrong. Despite its detrimental effects smoking has saved lots of people from me flying off the handle in a bad way on them.

Currently I'm still working at my extremely stressful job with my psychopath of a boss. If I quit cold turkey I would be fired within days. Bad time to be unemployed....

Since you don't seem disposed to posting anything helpful in this matter I'd say your post is the real bullcrapping.
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Reply #38 - 05/16/20 at 14:19:36
 
Ok, so can you restrict the fags to work hours? Possibly stick to apples at lunch?
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Reply #39 - 05/17/20 at 05:42:42
 
If I recall correctly Chantix has a NRT of 11 or 12, which means it is effective for 1 out of 11 people.  Its efficiency for those it treats is on the high end so that's a big plus.

 The key thing is that it's not Chantix, or apples, or energy drinks that is doing the quitting for you.  You are doing it, and you are capable, even if the tools aren't all available for you.

 I think at the end of the day "I start tearing people's heads off and crapping down their necks just for looking at me wrong" is a personality choice you could look at resolving along with, if not prior to quitting smoking.  You found a working coping mechanism for your anger but now that mechanism of smoking is no longer an option if you want to remain alive.  For one of my co-workers it took making 550 cord bracelets for charity.

 Similar to my issue with caffeine back in the day, I had to stop drinking coffee due to acid reflux, so I went with energy drinks but saw too many heart and renal failures in 40-year olds to accept those as an alternative.  They were deadly too.  So the only way I was able to deal with the constant fatigue, without more damaging substances, was to learn ways to manage my sleep better.  It took little things like no TV or computer screens 30min before sleep, take that 30min to engage in some reading that I enjoy, blocking light, a small fan etc.

 Once I found ways to get better rest I no longer needed ways to combat fatigue and those changes made leaving coffee, energy drinks, being a jerk, out of my life a whole lot easier.

 One thing I know for sure is I've never in all my years in a medical center heard of anyone that said they wished they had smoked just a little but longer.    
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Reply #40 - 05/17/20 at 06:02:34
 

"There's your problem right there. You're bullsh!tting yourself. Either stop or don't, the choice is yours to make. Making a post about it is just more bullsh!tting."

 Yeah don't ever ask for advice, that makes sense.

 The quit or don't quit mentality of addiction is often confused with one's lack of commitment.  Removing oneself from an addiction is a lot like the opposite activity of getting better at something very challenging like a marathon when you haven't run in years.

 It makes no sense to say run a marathon or don't run a marathon unless one can already run that far.  Asking for advice, getting tools, learning tricks is part of the process.  The expectation that one be able to run 26.21 miles the morning after they decide to take the challenge is just as ridiculous as expecting someone to stop smoking the day after they learn they have cancer.
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Reply #41 - 05/20/20 at 04:59:37
 
I quit on Christmas day, 1986..  My advice, pick a  future date for when you will have your last ciggie.  Maybe 45 days out....
On day 1, eliminate your first cigarette until one half hour after your first cup of coffee.  Do this for two weeks.  Now you are down to three cigs a day

On day 15, Do not smoke the last ciggie of the day.  Do this for two weeks.  Now you are down to two cigs a day.

On day 30, eliminate your cig of mid day, presumably after lunch.  Do this for two weeks.  now you are down to one cig a day...

On day 45, eliminate the last cig of each day and now you are down to no cigs a day and are a non-smoker.

You may want to chew some nicotine gum during this process.  

You may agree that anyone can drink coffee and not have a cig along with it first thing in the morning...Your reward could be the piece of nicotine gum after your coffee.  

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Reply #42 - 05/20/20 at 08:19:43
 
My wife quit cold turkey the day we found out she was pregnant with our first child and has never had the desire to smoke ever again.  She finds it disgusting in every way now (as do I)...the smoke, the way it makes people smell, the brown tar build up on everything, the ash...really gross!!  

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Reply #43 - 05/20/20 at 14:32:26
 
I always found that the blowing smoke through a clean white handkerchief
was convincing enough for me. Yuck.
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Reply #44 - 05/20/20 at 15:54:56
 
Man, four butts a day means you are right on the edge of getting the monkey off your back. Keep at it and ramp it down. As I said before It's not easy, at least it wasn't for me. You are not only stopping smoking you are changing your life style for the better.
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