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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Going to West Liberty, Kentucky, Reply #15 - 08/14/20 at 12:10:38 Even with feeling a little overmatched by the W, if I hit the lottery, that is the bike I'd buy.
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Reply #16 - 08/14/20 at 21:58:00

Even with feeling a little overmatched by the W,

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It looks like to me the W800 is the same bike with a Disk on the rear. I suspect the 400cc version is the same bike too. I think re-tooling a factory might be expensive , so they want the most return on the tooling they can get ??? Roll Eyes

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What's with the Savage front forks ... are yours bent ?

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Re: Going to West Liberty, Kentucky,
Reply #17 - 08/15/20 at 03:54:23

Nice looking bike MM. Can't wait to go riding with you and see how you like it. Do you have any thoughts that you might be bringing it to Arkansas if you get it running well? Good tires are going to be required on that trip as the roads are pretty rough.....I just got a new tire for the back of my bike as I am just about to the wear bars on that tire that Wheeler installed for me last year when we were riding in TN/NC.

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Jog had the idea to put the motor on a Savage ... That would be FUN ! A 50 HP Savage ??? Wink

I'll measure it ? Huh

I am not sure why you fellows want to put more HP in a Savage frame.....they really don' handle all that well and wallow around fast turns, the suspension is a bit "sucky", the back tire is too wide and only available in a few Cruiser tire sizes (front tire is readily available in lots of modern tire designs), the speedometer and indicator lights are between your knees, the fuel tank is smallish, and the stock brakes are woefully inadequate. The Savage can embarrass other riders when ridden well on tight mountain roads where the flexy chassis and marginal brakes don't slow MM or Oldfeller down.

I have a feeling that a well set up W650 with a good rider could outgun a good Savage and rider,

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Re: Going to West Liberty, Kentucky,
Reply #18 - 08/15/20 at 15:29:46

MMRanch wrote on 08/14/20 at 21:58:00:

Even with feeling a little overmatched by the W,

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It looks like to me the W800 is the same bike with a Disk on the rear. I suspect the 400cc version is the same bike too. I think re-tooling a factory might be expensive , so they want the most return on the tooling they can get ??? Roll Eyes

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What's with the Savage front forks ... are yours bent ?

Not just bent..
Snapped off,, woman turned left across me while I was running 45..

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Re: Going to West Liberty, Kentucky,
Reply #19 - 08/15/20 at 15:33:40

Dave wrote on 08/15/20 at 03:54:23:

Nice looking bike MM. Can't wait to go riding with you and see how you like it. Do you have any thoughts that you might be bringing it to Arkansas if you get it running well? Good tires are going to be required on that trip as the roads are pretty rough.....I just got a new tire for the back of my bike as I am just about to the wear bars on that tire that Wheeler installed for me last year when we were riding in TN/NC.

MMRanch wrote on 08/12/20 at 19:13:40:

Jog had the idea to put the motor on a Savage ... That would be FUN ! A 50 HP Savage ??? Wink

I'll measure it ? Huh

I am not sure why you fellows want to put more HP in a Savage frame.....they really don' handle all that well and wallow around fast turns, the suspension is a bit "sucky", the back tire is too wide and only available in a few Cruiser tire sizes (front tire is readily available in lots of modern tire designs), the speedometer and indicator lights are between your knees, the fuel tank is smallish, and the stock brakes are woefully inadequate. The Savage can embarrass other riders when ridden well on tight mountain roads where the flexy chassis and marginal brakes don't slow MM or Oldfeller down.

I have a feeling that a well set up W650 with a good rider could outgun a good Savage and rider,

Having a W don't wouldn't mean I Hafta use it in corners. Being able to run the slab, not working the savage to death, drinking gas,

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Re: Going to West Liberty, Kentucky,
Reply #20 - 08/15/20 at 19:03:42

Yea Dave the "W" has a luggage rack but no luggage. It looks clean and light !

It has a factory "Center Stand" too. Just like a 1960's bike made 60 years later.

Kinda refreshing !
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I cut hay today and can look at the "W" tomorrow or Monday.

So , I'll drain the fuel tank and crank-case ,
I'll look for an oil filter and battery this week also.
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I'm really itching to take it for a spin around the block ! It weighs about the same as the V-9 did and the power level is the same too , but it looks more relaxed . After thinking about it ... they both have 4 gal. tanks too.

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Reply #22 - 08/21/20 at 13:08:12

Hi guys

I brought the "W" to the house today.

I had a heck of a time getting the spinner bearings to stay in one side of the Drum Hay cutter. The little "C-Ring" keeper wouldn't stay on after the first set of bearings quit spinning and buggered-up the end of the shaft . Well on the fourth round I put a few spots of weld on the shaft so the close fitting washer can't slip off any more. So , I finally got to spend some time with the "W".

So , I drained the tank and carbs , changed the oil , the chain was way to tight , the horn didn't work , the battery was really old and dead , and the rear turn signals were on the wrong wires.

It had a "Salvageable" title from Ky. Its now has a clear title again. there is still a few little spots that give it away , but ya have to look for them.

I put a gallon of fuel in it and started it , remember its been sitting for a few years. Before it can be expected to behave proper its going to need some SEA FOAM and a few tanks of fuel run through it.

But , its time to order some tires for it ... they are REALLY OLD TOO ! Roll Eyes

I'm thinking " The original tire on the 1960-70's were like the K-70 tires of today ". ??? Huh

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Going to West Liberty, Kentucky, Reply #23 - 08/21/20 at 16:27:03 JOG slowly walks around Studying Hunting that NOT sexy part... Not there,, I hope I can swap the front end onto the Savage,, Probably not, waaaay outside odds,, But how cool would it be to do that, get the tank on, and somehow stuff the motor in and keep the belt,, Yeahh Santa is real too, right?
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MMRanch Serious Thumper Offline Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 6023 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	Re: Going to West Liberty, Kentucky, Reply #24 - 08/21/20 at 20:59:56 JOG I ran up and down the driveway (1/8 mile) a few times today and it seems like some of the dried ??? in the carbs broke loose. It looks like I'm going to need to pull the carbs off for a cleaning ... You ever done that job ? Any short cuts ?
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Reply #25 - 08/21/20 at 21:20:59

I did.. It was exactly no fun, The port side carb has the accelerator pump,I think. and Id bet its ate up.. Its a cloth/rubber thing about the size of a quarter. I could see thru mine like tight gauze,, in places,,
Those years ago, it cost me $25.00..Hopefully reformulated to survive corn juice,, Id ask,, If not, then shut fuel off and run it dry when its not goin anywhere for a while,,
When its time to shim valves, let me know,, I have a sheet drawn up that realy simplified it,,I also have a manual, on CD or DVD,, whatever.. I can send it to ya, you can copy and return it.
IIRC I hadda pull some ignition stuff to get the carbs off,, Been a few years,, so,,

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Reply #26 - 08/24/20 at 09:11:57

What a night-mare ! So , the air-boxes have to come out first then the carbs are a piece of cake .

I don't think I'll put the air-boxes back in . I'd rather just make a plate to bolt the electronic stuff to and get a pair of after market air filters , they will look better anyway.

I ordered a pair of Carb kits today. The old rubber bowl ring has dried up to in a "non-functioning" state ! The nettle fuel valves little rubber tips are still soft but new ones come with the kit ... so why not have them too.
Who would have thought restoring a barn find 20 year old bike would be hard ? Embarrassed

I did get to ride it around enough to get a feel for the power level a little. The power level is full size bike level and the gearing is too. 50 mph in second gear is less than 6K on the tac. One of the carbs started flooding at that point , but red-line is only 7.5K anyway . I did put it in 5th for a short bit , being chain drive the gearing is "flexible" but the factory has 5th and red-line meeting about 130+ so super-slab crusing should be good especially if I leave it Naked ! Grin

The carb kits should be here in a week or so ???

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Going to West Liberty, Kentucky, Reply #27 - 08/24/20 at 10:08:18 You better eyeball that accelerator pump diaphragm,, For my money,, the pain of goin back, even if it Looks good,, Id slap a fresh one in it..
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Re: Going to West Liberty, Kentucky,
Reply #28 - 08/24/20 at 13:44:59

Without those air boxes in the way ... the carbs are easy to pull.

Life is HARD , we should make it EASY every chance we get ! Cool

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you want me to measure the fork dia. so you can be looking for a front off what-ever you can find ? Any complete front-end out of a bike junkyard would work if the Dia. is the same .
Or
Will the whole "Triple-Tree" fit. I would think most full size bikes from the same era and Kawasaki would have similar frame necks . ?

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Going to West Liberty, Kentucky, Reply #29 - 08/24/20 at 17:30:55 If I could get the whole front end on the savage,, that would be great. If just tubes, then tubes it is..
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