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Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #210 - 11/15/21 at 12:39:28

Finally off the lift and officially standing on her own. The lean angle is just a little more than I wanted, but not too severe. We will see how it rests after the motor is back in and the rear suspension is adjusted. The stand is getting a serious cleaning and the Kawi is going up next. I will be back at the tracker build soon.

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Tocsik Serious Thumper Offline the singularity Posts: 1206 Denver, CO Gender:	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #211 - 11/15/21 at 15:10:05 Lookin' good. Pretty fast progress on this.
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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1313 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #212 - 11/15/21 at 16:29:50 Yeah, not bad for a month and a half! Seems like longer when you have to wait on shipping for everything.
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Reply #213 - 11/21/21 at 14:50:07

I hit a snag taking my forks apart on my Kawi, so I ping ponged back to the Savage build. Decided to take the cam cover off and start the motor disassembly. Well, it was not unexpected... I didn't get very far to find out this will be a total tear down. Cases will will need to come apart and every bearing/seal replaced. Along with a new camshaft!!!

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Every twenty minute job is a stripped thread away from being a three day ordeal.

'87 LS650h Savage Street Tracker (destroyed by fire)
'86 LS650g Savage (parts bike)
'81 Kawasaki KZ750e ELR tribut

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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1313 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #214 - 11/21/21 at 14:50:40 The other lobe is not much better...
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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1313 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #215 - 11/21/21 at 14:52:00 I'm starting to read the hop up threads.
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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2642 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #216 - 11/21/21 at 17:30:21 Don’t feel bad, this is the status of my winter project.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28996 L.A. California Gender:	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #217 - 11/21/21 at 19:14:53 TheSneeze wrote on 11/21/21 at 14:50:40: The other lobe is not much better... caused by idling too long on the kickstand. the tilt drains half the tub and the upper cam starves for oil.
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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1313 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #218 - 11/21/21 at 19:20:34 Interesting. I never would have come to that conclusion. Since I have no idea when this motor last ran, I am crossing my fingers I don't find more damage adding to the "replace the part" pile.
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Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #219 - 11/22/21 at 02:32:58

The bottom end is tough.......the cam lobe wear is pretty typical of a bike that is idled to long and/or run with oil that does not have enough ZDDP to keep the cam and rocker happy.

I wouldn't be too quick to condemn the bottom end bearings. Lots of our forum members fix the cam/rocker issues and then start running good oil (Rotella), and the engine continues to run happily. Any metal that came off the cam/rocker went into the sump and through the filter and never got to the bearings.

You didn't send a photo of the rockers - but I suspect you have the rockers without the hardened pads (2005 and later). When you order new rockers be sure to get the 2005 and later rockers.

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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1313 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #220 - 11/22/21 at 10:50:16 Rockers
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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1313 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #221 - 11/22/21 at 10:54:08 I am not opposed to shipping the cylinder head to be rebuilt. Any recommendations on a good shop that knows how to do these heads properly? Thumper Racing closed - they were in town near me. They specialized in four stroke singles.
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DragBikeMike Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 4470 Honolulu	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #222 - 11/22/21 at 14:51:48 It wouldn't surprise me if your cylinder head is just fine as-is. From what I see here, you have excellent skills. I think you are more than capable. Take it apart, clean & inspect, install new guide seals, leak test it, rock & roll. You might wanna breath on them ports a bit while you have it apart.
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Reply #223 - 11/22/21 at 15:37:23

I am not going to invest in the tools required to cut new valve seats. I would prefer a professional three angle cut. The leak down compression test showed most if not all loss was the exhaust valves. If I am going to a new cam, new rockers, piston, etc. I would be more comfortable with a shop head rebuild than attempt it myself. I am going to start looking for a carb replacement and exhaust options. Thanks for the PM - looking forward to seeing more.

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'87 LS650h Savage Street Tracker (destroyed by fire)
'86 LS650g Savage (parts bike)
'81 Kawasaki KZ750e ELR tribut

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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2642 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #224 - 11/22/21 at 16:12:26 Use a machine shop for the angle cut. Otherwise this is a remove and replace operation. It’s also a very good opportunity to open the exhaust port.
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