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Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #480 - 02/01/22 at 09:50:49

If it isn't a straight swap it doesn't make much sense to me as I would need to find a later model case. That would more than likely end up being a used motor, which would include the transmission. I am too far into this early engine to switch paths (clutch upgrade, starter torque gear mod, etc.). If you need an early four speed transmission we may be able to work out some other mutually beneficial arrangement.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28996 L.A. California Gender:	Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #481 - 02/01/22 at 11:33:50 I don't think you can swap a 4spd tranny into a 5spd case or vice versa. I know 1 person complained when they tried replacing a final drive shaft and it didn't fit.
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Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #482 - 02/01/22 at 11:38:34

verslagen1 wrote on 02/01/22 at 11:33:50:

I don't think you can swap a 4spd tranny into a 5spd case or vice versa.
I know 1 person complained when they tried replacing a final drive shaft and it didn't fit.

It is not the intent to swap a 4 speed transmission for a 5 speed one.

The question is can you swap the 35/65 primary gears for the 37/67 primary gears - or vice versa.

There may be little or no reason to do so - as it is easier to change sprockets on thie Street Tracker build. But it is a question I have wondered for a while. Owners of 4 speed bikes could make the change to get a 4% higher gearing......owners of 5 speed bikes could reduce their gearing byk 4%.

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ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2825	Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #483 - 02/01/22 at 12:33:34 Dan P wrote on 02/01/22 at 06:58:11: Ohiomoto, do you recall what bike you sourced out your brake pedal from ? Thank you --------- XS400 More info can be found here: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1487785879/0
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Dan P YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 25 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #484 - 02/02/22 at 09:00:02 Thank you !
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Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #485 - 02/02/22 at 15:02:06

With the spacers welded on the inside of the inner mount plates, I started to measure for the spacers to join the outer plates to them. After considering the force being applied to the outer plates by the foot pegs, I decided that trying to go without a spacer running across between the inner plates would be a mistake. This spacer tube will help prevent the bottom of the inner plates trying to flex inward.

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Reply #486 - 02/02/22 at 15:08:01

Now comes a critical part - the four spacer tubes holding the inner and outer mount plates together. I really wish I had a lathe in my shop so I could guarantee the ends of the spacers were parallel and square. These parts will determine how far out the foot pegs end up side to side, and also the position front to back.

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ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2825	Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #487 - 02/02/22 at 17:48:12 I like the direction you're going. Once you get it worked out be sure to add it to the DYI mid control thread.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18314 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #488 - 02/02/22 at 18:05:05 ohiomoto wrote on 02/02/22 at 17:48:12: Once you get it worked out be sure to add it to the DYI mid control thread. Sounds like Yoda. "Do Yourself It"
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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1313 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #489 - 02/02/22 at 19:55:14 I think this will end up being a viable solution for the chain conversion crowd. Not enough room for the bracket around the swing arm with the chain there. So far I am happy where this is going. More cutting, grinding, and welding tomorrow.
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ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2825	Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #490 - 02/03/22 at 10:10:57 Oops! Good catch Dave.
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Reply #491 - 02/03/22 at 16:31:38

A lot of fitting, grinding and welding today. It took me a while, tacking, fitting, cutting tacks, retacking, fitting, etc. But I finally am happy with the fit of what I am calling the "lower cradle". Eagle eyes will spot two different size spacers on the inside of the side plates. It's not easy getting a new tab to land in the exact same spot as the factory one on the opposite side. Yeah, some of my welds aren't pretty either. But as I tell my wife, I may not be pretty at it, but I get good penetration!

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Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #493 - 02/03/22 at 16:37:14

I spent a lot of time making the outer mounting plates symmetrical. The third hole is a clearance hole for one of the frame bolts. No other way to get the bolt in after the outer mount plates are welded on. I haven't added the clearance hole in the other plate yet. There is some addition material removal on the top edges that needs addressing as well. Like I said, lots of grinding and fitting!

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'86 LS650g Savage (parts bike)
'81 Kawasaki KZ750e ELR tribut

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Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #494 - 02/04/22 at 11:47:15

My neighbor's son dropped by this morning. Turns out he bought a used '03 DR650! It was fun checking out his bike as I have never looked at one up close. Then I told him about the DR650 parts I am putting in my Savage. Brought him into my shop to show off the change and progress. He had no idea some early DR parts could be used on another model. The LS/DR crowd sure is a small world!

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'87 LS650h Savage Street Tracker (destroyed by fire)
'86 LS650g Savage (parts bike)
'81 Kawasaki KZ750e ELR tribut

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