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Reply #30 - 12/30/21 at 08:55:03
 
A cake baker is not allowed to say "No Ni**ers Allowed."
There are protections against prejudice.
Orientation is protected.

Do you really want a segregated society?
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Reply #31 - 12/30/21 at 10:49:37
 
Serowbot wrote on 12/30/21 at 08:55:03:
A cake baker is not allowed to say "No Ni**ers Allowed."
There are protections against prejudice.
Orientation is protected.

Do you really want a segregated society?

That is RICH!!
The left are creating one.

Excluding whites is good.
You don't know about that?
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Reply #32 - 12/30/21 at 13:18:37
 

So a Cake Baker, does not, “have control over their own business” ?

 Did the Cake Baker refuse to provide product because the Customer was spreading misinformation?

 I understand your point but we are talking two different legal avenues, and law is what allows these things to happen.  The difference is refusal to provide service due to misinformation is legal.

 You don't like it?  Change law.  Complaining will achieve the following:















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Reply #33 - 12/30/21 at 17:46:08
 
You think YOU or anyone else has the right to squelch someone saying what they believe, because, According to you,or them it's
Disinformation?
Who IS it that they censored?
Some unreliable know nothing?
Gee,how about

Have the Conversation?
Intelligent, educated, credentialed scientists proposed a different approach to dealing with covid.
Rather than debate it and consider it, it got squelched.

What some people call
Disinformation
Isn't
It just goes against THEIR agenda.
Rather than debate and win or lose on the MERITS of their argument
They crush the debate.

That is so very American.
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Reply #34 - 12/30/21 at 17:47:58
 
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Ooopsies! Disinformation!! Run Away! Run Away!

How about
Look AROUND and stop choosing to be a Dupe.
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Reply #35 - 12/31/21 at 01:03:14
 
You think YOU or anyone else has the right to squelch someone saying what they believe, because, According to you,or them it's
Disinformation?


 If they are using My private business to do it?  Yeah.  Nobody is saying they can't go type anything they want at another business.  Do you think this forum owner has to allow us to type anything we want?

 If the forum owner closed this section of the forum is that a form of oppression?  Is it some form of human rights violation to ban a user here?

 This is why Twitter isn't something we should be using as a primary source of information.  They call their business "Live Commentary" not a discussion and debate forum.  Twitter is a private business and all people want to do is b!tch that they control what is on there.  You think?

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Reply #36 - 12/31/21 at 01:34:00
 
You Know that is bullshit.
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Reply #37 - 12/31/21 at 02:02:46
 

 What's bullsh!t is expecting Twitter to function like a public entity when it is a private business.

 If Twitter banned Biden I doubt the same people would be complaining.  

 Liberal businesses will cater to their client base and limit Conservative activity within the control of that business.  But Conservative businesses won't?  That's supposed to be something anyone would believe?  

 Why would anyone think Twitter of all businesses will refuse to act in a way that caters towards their largest source of income?
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Reply #38 - 12/31/21 at 06:50:02
 
Twitter survives solely because conservatives use it to argue against liberals who control the vast majority of the news and entertainment culture. Major conservative public figures complain about Twitter unfairly targeting them (which they absolutely do by the way) yet they will never leave it because it’s a platform for them to stay relevant.

If conservatives banded together and abandoned Twitter, it would become largely irrelevant because it would simply become an echo chamber for prime time news.

Twitter’s value is great for emerging news from sources on the ground at the moment. The fires in Boulder Colorado for example. It’s also a great source of what corporate news media calls disinformation but as time goes on, a certain percentage turns out to be absolutely true. The trick is figuring out what is crap and what isn’t , not easy.
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Reply #39 - 12/31/21 at 07:02:37
 
Eegore wrote on 12/30/21 at 13:18:37:
" ...   Did the Cake Baker refuse to provide product because the Customer was spreading misinformation? ... "  


Yes and No.
The customer did spread misinformation.
The customer was not refused because of that.

The cake baker was sued because
a small amount of vocal UL, Freedom hating, Socialists,
took advantage of a small amount of people,
pushing very hard to make the pendulum swing the other way.




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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #40 - 12/31/21 at 11:08:54
 
"Twitter’s value is great for emerging news from sources on the ground at the moment. The fires in Boulder Colorado for example. It’s also a great source of what corporate news media calls disinformation but as time goes on, a certain percentage turns out to be absolutely true. The trick is figuring out what is crap and what isn’t , not easy."


 Exactly.

 Just like everything else we have to do an amount of personal work to figure out what's BS.  Twitter doesn't have to be some exactly equal source where they let everyone use their stuff and speaks nothing but truth.  

 Saying OMG Twitter is biased is like saying OMG Infowars is biased.  Gatewatpundit is biased!  FOX is biased!  

 Of course they are.  Why wouldn't they be?
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Reply #41 - 12/31/21 at 12:39:58
 
Eegore wrote on 12/31/21 at 02:02:46:
   What's bullsh!t is expecting Twitter to function like a public entity when it is a private business. ..." 

So when a Government,
tells  people and Corporate/Private businesses they MUST,
and are REQUIRED to do, 'this or that',
with NO authority from the people that Fund that Government.

Is that BS also,
or is it, OK ?



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Reply #42 - 12/31/21 at 12:51:16
 
Is this a hypothetical?  
...or did some cake baker somewhere deny a MAGA hat fool a cookie?

Race, color, gender, are protected by the Constitution.  That's where the authority comes from.
Maskless Maga hat morons are not protected.
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Reply #43 - 12/31/21 at 13:17:04
 
Serowbot wrote on 12/31/21 at 12:51:16:
 " ... Race, color, gender, are protected by the Constitution.  ..."

Yep, True, and understandable.

Is FORCING a person/company to do something,
also 'protected', by the Constitution ?

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Reply #44 - 12/31/21 at 13:34:40
 
Is FORCING a person/company to do something,
also 'protected', by the Constitution ?


 FORCING is not "protected" in the Constitution.  Humans are.

 If a person/company is violating the rights of another human then multiple degrees of FORCE can be implemented to protect that human's rights.  If FORCE is not required, then alternate means are acceptable.

 Is Twitter violating anyone's rights when they don't let them use their business tools?  Depends on the situation, if they say its because of gender/race/etc. then yes they are.  If it's because they say things Twitter doesn't like, then no they aren't.

 Twitter can be FORCED to comply or otherwise pay restitution etc. if they violate a Human's rights.  They can not be FORCED to comply or otherwise pay restitution etc. if they don't like what a Human says.


 So while people sit around complaining and arguing the semantics of how the Constitution "protects" FORCE, etc., the real work gets done by people that work on establishing if Twitter, by law, could be considered a public forum where 1st Amendment rights actually apply.
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