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Serowbot wrote on 07/07/22 at 08:05:41: "... Do you see the dichotomy? Do you see the dichotomy, in the FOID card ? Which is above and beyond the Fed purchase/possess requirements. Which is what the UL, DFI, FDS, Socialists want everywhere. INSTEAD of punishing the CRIMINAL !The F.O.I.D. card, for Ill, (which the latest DFI had)is basically a, additional and ‘enhanced’ background check, and a ‘red’ law. Take a look at just some of the, ‘requirements’. “… use cannabis consistent with Illinois law, your FOID card or CCL will not be revoked nor will your application(s) denied. Medical Marijuana Licenses are state-issued and cannot result in the denial of any right or privilege.
However, under Federal law, you are subject to restrictions that prohibit you from acquiring or possessing firearms and firearms ammunition. …”Which one is it ? Apparently the State law, Trumps Fed Law, (according to the State)“… Amish or religious exempt applicants will only be able to apply for a FOID card through the alternative call-in application method. Applicants will need to provide a set of fingerprints using an Illinois State Police approved fingerprint card and federal form 4029 - APPLICATION FOR EXEMPTION FROM SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE AND WAIVER OF BENEFITS.
Please note that firearms cannot be purchased through a Federal Firearms Licensed dealer with a FOID card not containing a photograph. …”So in IL it is perfectly OK to discriminate, based on the Religion, of a citizen. (wonder if the tt knows that)“… along with a credit card, debit card or electronic check before you start the application process, whether using the online process or the alternative call-in method. …” You ‘must’ use electronic “traceable’ ! Can’t use ‘Cash, or Check’. “… If you are not 21 years of age and do not have living parents or a legal guardian, upon receipt, your application shall be deemed denied. …”So the State law, restricts a freedom, the Fed law says is a ‘Right’. (What was that
the Fairy Dust Sprinklers said,
about ‘abortion’, not being a right’)“… What if I am not a U.S. citizen? Can I apply for a FOID Card?…”
“…Yes, you will be required to provide an A#, AR# or USCIS# upon application to determine your eligibility. This will be a 9-digit numerical number. You can find these numbers on either your Permanent Resident Card or Employment Authorization Card. If you do not have either of these, please visit www.CBP.gov to obtain your I-94#. This number is 11 numerical digits. …”A Non Citizen, CAN get a gun/etc. (Unless you are a Citizen that believes in a certain Religion)Here is a bit of the, ‘red’ law incorporated into getting a FOID card. (Again, the State, gave, one to the Latest DFI)“… "Adjudicated as a person with a mental disability" means the person is the subject of a determination by a court, board, commission or other lawful authority that the person, as a result of marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, mental impairment, incompetency, condition, or disease:
(1) presents a clear and present danger to himself,
herself, or to others;
(2) lacks the mental capacity to manage his or her
own affairs or is adjudicated a person with a disability as defined in Section 11a-2 of the Probate Act of 1975;
(3) is not guilty in a criminal case by reason of
insanity, mental disease or defect;
(3.5) is guilty but mentally ill, as provided in
Section 5-2-6 of the Unified Code of Corrections;
(4) is incompetent to stand trial in a criminal case;
(5) is not guilty by reason of lack of mental
responsibility under Articles 50a and 72b of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. 850a, 876b;
(6) is a sexually violent person under subsection (f)
of Section 5 of the Sexually Violent Persons Commitment Act;
(7) is a sexually dangerous person under the Sexually
Dangerous Persons Act;
(8) is unfit to stand trial under the Juvenile Court
Act of 1987;
(9) is not guilty by reason of insanity under the
Juvenile Court Act of 1987;
(10) is subject to involuntary admission as an
inpatient as defined in Section 1-119 of the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code;
(11) is subject to involuntary admission as an
outpatient as defined in Section 1-119.1 of the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code;
(12) is subject to judicial admission as set forth in
Section 4-500 of the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code; or
(13) is subject to the provisions of the Interstate
Agreements on Sexually Dangerous Persons Act.
"Clear and present danger" means a person who:
(1) communicates a serious threat of physical
violence against a reasonably identifiable victim or poses a clear and imminent risk of serious physical injury to himself, herself, or another person as determined by a physician, clinical psychologist, or qualified examiner; or
(2) demonstrates threatening physical or verbal
behavior, such as violent, suicidal, or assaultive threats, actions, or other behavior, as determined by a physician, clinical psychologist, qualified examiner, school administrator, or law enforcement official. …”
“…"Involuntarily admitted" has the meaning as prescribed in Sections 1-119 and 1-119.1 of the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code.
"Mental health facility" means any licensed private hospital or hospital affiliate, institution, or facility, or part thereof, and any facility, or part thereof, operated by the State or a political subdivision thereof which provide treatment of persons with mental illness and includes all hospitals, institutions, clinics, evaluation facilities, mental health centers, colleges, universities, long-term care facilities, and nursing homes, or parts thereof, which provide treatment of persons with mental illness whether or not the primary purpose is to provide treatment of persons with mental illness.
"National governing body" means a group of persons who adopt rules and formulate policy on behalf of a national firearm sporting organization.
"Patient" means:
(1) a person who is admitted as an inpatient or
resident of a public or private mental health facility for mental health treatment under Chapter III of the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code as an informal admission, a voluntary admission, a minor admission, an emergency admission, or an involuntary admission, unless the treatment was solely for an alcohol abuse disorder; or
(2) a person who voluntarily or involuntarily
receives mental health treatment as an out-patient or is otherwise provided services by a public or private mental health facility, and who poses a clear and present danger to himself, herself, or to others.
"Person with a developmental disability" means a person with a disability which is attributable to any other condition which results in impairment similar to that caused by an intellectual disability and which requires services similar to those required by persons with intellectual disabilities. The disability must originate before the age of 18 years, be expected to continue indefinitely, and constitute a substantial disability. This disability results, in the professional opinion of a physician, clinical psychologist, or qualified examiner, in significant functional limitations in 3 or more of the following areas of major life activity:
(i) self-care;
(ii) receptive and expressive language;
(iii) learning;
(iv) mobility; or
(v) self-direction.
"Person with an intellectual disability" means a person with a significantly subaverage general intellectual functioning which exists concurrently with impairment in adaptive behavior and which originates before the age of 18 years.
"Physician" has the meaning as defined in Section 1-120 of the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code.
"Protective order" means any orders of protection issued under the Illinois Domestic Violence Act of 1986, stalking no contact orders issued under the Stalking No Contact Order Act, civil no contact orders issued under the Civil No Contact Order Act, and firearms restraining orders issued under the Firearms Restraining Order Act.
"Qualified examiner" has the meaning provided in Section 1-122 of the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code.
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