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Reply #15 - 11/04/22 at 09:54:09

“…We're in regular conversation with this group and others about our content policies …”

So Facebook does say it will Censor things.
They just don’t have the balls to say it is a certain political view.

Unlike a Baker saying "I don’t do that …”, then being sued, then winning, (after spending gobs of money), then sued again, JUST for spite, so he has to spend gobs of money again.

So a ‘influencing’ Public Traded, billon dollar, company/s, does not have to tell the truth.
Yet A Baker, can get sued, win, and get sued again, just because.
OK, Got it.

The lesson is.
If one does NOT say what they will Censor, perfectly OK.
If one DOES say, what they will not do, they get Sued.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29287 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Found it Reply #16 - 11/04/22 at 10:41:11 MnSpring wrote on 11/04/22 at 09:54:09: OK, Got it. The lesson is. If one does NOT say what they will Censor, perfectly OK. If one DOES say, what they will not do, they get Sued. There are protected minorities. We don't protect the bullies in schools,.. we protect the bullied. What do you do?
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9104	Re: Social media question Reply #17 - 11/04/22 at 11:48:58 The lesson is. If one does NOT say what they will Censor, perfectly OK. If one DOES say, what they will not do, they get Sued. The solution: You go sue Facebook for not telling you what political views they will censor on their private property. Then FB does get Sued.
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Re: Social media question
Reply #18 - 11/05/22 at 07:31:39

Should this have been banned? Huh

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Serowbot wrote on 11/01/22 at 14:09:08:

Any need for Twitter to censor this?

MAGA porn, hate for Trump: China-based accounts stoke division
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/11/01/china-midterms-twitter-n...
A fake China-based account called MAGA ‘Hot Babe’ was among nearly 2,000 that sought to influence America’s midterms and were removed by Twitter

One network that Twitter removed, the data showed, included 22 user accounts that tweeted more than 250,000 times. Between April and early October, their posts were generally pro-Trump and conspiratorial, particularly about the pandemic and coronavirus vaccines.

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9971 Minn Gender:	Re: Social media question Reply #19 - 11/05/22 at 17:29:14 Eegore wrote on 11/04/22 at 11:48:58: *"... Then FB does get Sued.* So if the FBI *'demanded', or 'told', or 'suggested',* it would be a violation of one of the PURPOSES of Existence, to PROTECT the 1st. You believe they have, 'done wrong' ?
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Reply #20 - 11/05/22 at 19:39:09

So if the FBI 'demanded', or 'told', or 'suggested',
it would be a violation of one of the PURPOSES of Existence,
to PROTECT the 1st.

In this context and only this context with the exemption of all other known words compiled into sentences of any known language, exclusively and only within the context of the specific and exact words you used in this post, and no other post, I would say "Demanded" and "Told" are equal and essentially mean the same thing.

"Suggested" and only the word "Suggested" with the exemption of all other known words as You used it in this thread and no other thread, I would say is not a violation of any kind.

I can suggest anything I like to my neighbor, but if I tell them, or demand that they take their political sign down from their personal physical property, or, get this... their digital property, I would be in violation.

So if the FBI, as I already said many times before, is forcing, coercing or other English words synonymous with force, any company to restrict language on that companies private property without due legal process and judgement, then the FBI is potentially infringing on the 1st Amendment.

Facebook however is not since you have no rights to use Facebook and they have no obligation to protect your 1st Amendment rights. So complaining that Facebook is violating your "free speech" by working with the government voluntarily, or keeping any person or group of persons of any political affiliation from posting on Facebook property is fundamentally flawed.

You don't like it, Sue Facebook and then your problem of Facebook not being sued would be solved.

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Reply #21 - 11/06/22 at 05:23:12

Serowbot wrote on 11/05/22 at 07:31:39:

Should this have been banned? Huh

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Serowbot wrote on 11/01/22 at 14:09:08:

Any need for Twitter to censor this?

MAGA porn, hate for Trump: China-based accounts stoke division
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/11/01/china-midterms-twitter-n...
A fake China-based account called MAGA ‘Hot Babe’ was among nearly 2,000 that sought to influence America’s midterms and were removed by Twitter

One network that Twitter removed, the data showed, included 22 user accounts that tweeted more than 250,000 times. Between April and early October, their posts were generally pro-Trump and conspiratorial, particularly about the pandemic and coronavirus vaccines.

The difference is in the case were talking about, a federal agency used its influence and told social media platforms to withhold truthful information that would have damaged Biden’s election chances and they did that because they preferred Biden as president versus Trump. That’s different than what you’re describing.

If the DOJ knew those were false but specifically asked social media to post them after those companies said ‘no, we’re not going to post these because they’re false’, but the DOJ wanted them decimated because it would help Trump and the companies who also wanted Trump elected, did it, then you’d have a case somewhat equal. What you’re talking about is not even in the same ballpark.

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Reply #22 - 11/06/22 at 06:19:41

Eegore wrote on 11/05/22 at 19:39:09:

"... I would say "Demanded" and "Told" are equal and essentially mean the same thing. ..."

Incorrect.

"Suggested" and only the word "Suggested" with the exemption of all other known words as You used it in this thread and no other thread, I would say is not a violation of any kind.

So the FBI, who is tasked with defending Law's.
Comes to you and, "Suggested", you violate a law, (Because they cannot),
You would say it: "is not a violation of any kind."

OK, Got it !

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Reply #23 - 11/06/22 at 07:35:53

So the FBI, who is tasked with defending Law's.
Comes to you and, "Suggested", you violate a law, (Because they cannot),
You would say it: "is not a violation of any kind."

OK, Got it !

You didn't say the FBI "suggested" I violate a law. The goalposts are moving again. If you state they requested a violation then there is a violation.

The problem is Twitter/Facebook have no obligation to protect your rights. If the FBI requests, suggests, asks them to censor content Twitter/Facebook is not breaking any law, because the law does not require they protect your rights. Also you do not have the right to use Facebook/Twitter, so there is no violation on their part if they keep you, or any other known human, from using their property.

If the FBI asks me to do something that is NOT illegal then I am not breaking any laws and I am not committing a violation. Now the FBI may be in violation of the law, but not me, not Facebook, not Twitter.

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9971 Minn Gender:	Re: Social media question Reply #24 - 11/06/22 at 07:48:06 Eegore wrote on 11/06/22 at 07:35:53: *"... You didn't say the FBI "suggested" ..."* Perhaps you could read it again.
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Reply #25 - 11/06/22 at 09:52:33

Perhaps you could read it again.

Perhaps you could post the entire sentence and not edit it to alter context. I have underlined the part you took out:

You didn't say the FBI "suggested" I violate a law.

You did not say the FBI suggested "I" violate the law. This is about the FBI making suggestions to a private company that approached the FBI for that purpose. Changing sentences to say the FBI is approaching a private citizen for the purpose of suggesting they violate law is a completely different topic. Obviously if the FBI is breaking the law it would be illegal by definition.

The private company that voluntarily approached the FBI did not violate your 1st Amendment rights because they have no obligation to protect them. You have no right to use Twitter or Facebook, so free speech is not the argument to make against Twitter or Facebook.

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Reply #26 - 11/06/22 at 12:59:14

Ya-Know.

'I am certain that I could be within the bounds of possibly being totally uncertain of a particular point of view, depending on the manner of the revolving opinion I have about that absolute view, which of course totally depends on the meaning of, ’view’. This is to mean no ‘view’, other that that view, and meaning only that view, at that mentioned view’s time in space'

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9104	Re: Social media question Reply #27 - 11/06/22 at 13:45:04 Ya-Know. When you repeatedly take things out of context and edit sentences to mean things they do not, then don't expect much in means of adult conversation. I never said it is not a violation for the FBI to come to me and Suggest I do things they can not do. You had to edit my sentence to make it look that way.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Social media question Reply #28 - 11/06/22 at 17:36:02 I didn't intentionally edit it to say anything. I referenced it,
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Social media question Reply #29 - 11/06/22 at 17:37:01 I'm tired of it, enjoy
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