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New data for the origin of everything ........
03/02/23 at 20:33:32
13.4 billion years ago for the Big Bang now has six "super galaxies" that strongly pre-exist the start of everything.
We got new data points (six entire super galaxies of them) that need a new space time origin theory to cover them.
Thank you for the timely mental shake up, James Webb Telescope ........ our astronomers now will have new theories to propose.
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Re: New data for the origin of everything ........
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03/03/23 at 04:08:37
So the new scope shows more stars than before, 6 new super galaxies this time … SURPRISE SURPRISE… it just goes on and on as God made it.
They keep looking for the end of it but that will never happen.
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Re: New data for the origin of everything ........
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03/03/23 at 04:45:48
Yep,
Hubble couldn't discern the 6 super galaxy thingies apart from being a single point source of light , but James Webb could see it as a really big mass of very old mixed stars that are
ridiculously
far far far away (and super duper old to boot as distance = time for the light to get here).
We need a new theory that has had many many big bangs that have been going on since God time.
God's creation is BIG !!!!!!
What will the next more powerful telescope tell us ???
https://e-catworld.com/2023/02/27/extremely-unexpected-universe-breaking-gala...
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03/03/23 at 08:15:26
A new look in tomorrows tomorrow will still be saying “It’s bigger still!”
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03/03/23 at 08:33:18
I'm more and more inclined to believe that we're just NPC's in some childs video game...
It would explain a lot
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Re: New data for the origin of everything ........
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03/03/23 at 08:36:32
I was watching something on this just a few days ago. The thing that was twisting minds up was the Size of those things. They expected them not to have expanded as far as they had, ? Or do I have that backwards? Dammitall. IDK..
But this is absolutely in the
But Wait! There's More!
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03/03/23 at 14:51:36
The six super galaxies (aka likely products of very remote far previous separate space time expansions) are way too big and way too far away to be a part of our local universe's 13.4 billion years ago big bang.
It is clear that new theories are needed and a whole slew of explanation programs on channel 4 and YouTube will be needed too.
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03/03/23 at 18:06:53
This sounds like something an expert would refer to as an
Unexpected Surprise...
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Re: New data for the origin of everything ........
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03/03/23 at 18:49:30
All that
" Theory "
makes me wonder why anyone would believe a word of it !
It seems more correct to admit that we don't know and that we "THINK" this or that could have happened .
No one know for sure . We all can have a theory , but I'll be the first to admit that : All that was before my time !
I'm not saying that we shouldn't wonder how the universe got started , but we really shouldn't claim we know when , no-one could ever know for sure.
Clear as MUD isn't it ?
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03/04/23 at 04:31:23
Absolutely.
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Re: New data for the origin of everything ........
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03/04/23 at 05:59:50
There's an abundance of mind-bending science, knowledge, technology, and human genius in the disciplines of astronomy, astrophysics, etc. So much of this power has been funneled into attempts to deny a creator being behind everything that exists. We have incredible rovers on Mars hoping to find evidence of microorganisms to somehow bolster evolution. The Big Bang started everything, but who was behind the Big Bang? We can believe in humanoid creatures that travel ridiculous distances that defy the logic of time/space to get here in vehicles we can't explain, but believing in God is a stretch and oh so medieval? I'm a Christian, but my little mind hurts when I think too much about God being eternal, having no beginning or end. I can't make it compute, yet I believe it. We're so used to the paradigm of birth, life, and death.
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Re: New data for the origin of everything ........
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03/06/23 at 07:51:09
Another thing that is new is the HUGE EXTREME DISTANCES between the six new HUGE super galaxies that have been discovered so far ......
To simply to send light from the furtherst supergalaxy on the left to the furtherst away supergalaxy on the right (since they are convienently located on the opposite sides of James Web's detection range) would take over 26 billion years.
The next telescope we build will see further and will compound this conceptual issue even more.
Multiple big bangs may be involved here ...... if so what do we call the space between the big bang zones and what laws does that blank space run under? Space/time rules in our big bang zone are mostly understood, but do the different big bang zones have different system rules?
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03/06/23 at 19:57:54
Wow !
I'm glad I'm not in charge of all that trying to figure it all out !
It's enough for me to try to figure out how to get enough time in the day for at least a short bike ride !
Just once or twice around our own Galaxy on most days !
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I hope we're not using our tax dollars to fund someone pondering the universe ?? Doing it for free here is enough !
Anybody ever hear of the Biblically "GAP" theory of creation ? That's the one I'm thinking is most likely .
But
That all happened "Before my time" so I'll never know for sure.
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03/07/23 at 05:21:31
All that " Theory " makes me wonder why anyone would believe a word of it !
It seems more correct to admit that we don't know and that we "THINK" this or that could have happened .
That's pretty much all I've heard from an astronomy perspective. The only place I've heard that "knows" for sure how the Universe started is religion.
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03/07/23 at 08:13:44
the more we know, the more we know we don't know
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