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J Mac Senior Member Offline Laissez Les Bon Temps Roulez Posts: 408 Louisiana, USA Gender:	Re: Electrification Reply #15 - 04/17/23 at 18:01:04 Well, if anybody is an authority, he is. That's a pretty lightweight article for Spectrum. Thanks for sharing. WebsterMark wrote on 04/17/23 at 03:17:25: Happened to see the article below while reading this morning. https://spectrum.ieee.org/lithium-ion-battery-disruption-ready
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Electrification Reply #16 - 04/18/23 at 00:22:33 It’s ridiculous that manufacturing technologies haven’t changed in 30 years, Whittingham says. “We need to reduce the 60 to 80 kilowatt hours) of electricity it takes to produce a one kWh battery,” he says. “We’ve got to find new manufacturing technologies.” Yeah,, bummer
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zevenenergie Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1782 The Netherlands Den Haag	Re: Electrification Reply #17 - 04/18/23 at 01:44:04 I was at my local motor repair shop a while ago talking whit the oner and he told me that one lithium battery for a bike can poison a lake the size of a city to such an extent that all the fish will die. I had heard that before but what is that true, I wonder?
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Reply #18 - 04/18/23 at 02:47:21

I don't know if that is true, but if it is, that is a real problem. I see videos about someone disappearing and Finally after twenty years someone finds their car in a lake or river,suddenly they aren't missing anymore.
Heck, I heard that just being in a low level crash the E car gets totalled, because of damage,or Fear of damage, in the battery pack. Some of them are potted, like so many electronic things,, our ignition module, and if the pack is damaged, it's not like you can just remove and replace the damaged cells..
Maybe someone will discover a potting material that can be dissolved without hurting the pack. Here is a place for some chemists to make the news.

Knowing the answer,,
Can one lousy little battery poison a lake?
Yeah we need to know that.

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Reply #19 - 04/18/23 at 04:03:18

zevenenergie wrote on 04/18/23 at 01:44:04:

I was at my local motor repair shop a while ago talking whit the oner and he told me that one lithium battery for a bike can poison a lake the size of a city to such an extent that all the fish will die.
I had heard that before but what is that true, I wonder?

I think that answer would depend upon the political ideology of whoever authored the research paper. Right now I’m told that a nuclear power plant could destroy the world, melt all the way through to China, because of a stupid movie made 35 years ago so we can’t build them. As a result, we have a huge number of people foolish enough to think that we’re gonna power the world in the future using windmills and solar panels, both intermittent power sources totally dependent upon energy storage which, like climate change, is always just around the next corner. We’re steps, and we’re almost there. But when you get to the corner, it’s just around the next corner etc. etc.

So does a single battery destroy a lake? Because EVs are the hot item right now for leftist, the answer will be no. Now, toss in a single “bullet” from an “AR-15” and the lake will be quarantined for 100 years….!

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Reply #20 - 04/18/23 at 04:17:14

I also think that a political preference, is not really a good way to judge a batterys polluting capacity.

There is something very strange going on with energy politics.
In germany they will soon close the last two nuclear power plants because of you know why.

And 500 km = 312,5 miles away, Denmark is opening a huge nuclear power plant that can supply half the country with energy.

I think it would be much better If we skip politics.

The leftys try to stick that environmental political agenda up everyone's ass. So better not bent over.

But the right, will crappity smack you up to.

The liberals want the freedom to crappity smack anyone.

Black Lives Matter have been crappity smacked and now want to crappity smack to.

Proudboys mainly crappity smack themselves.

The communists crappity smack the whole group.

The Chinese have a slit that runs across. so it remains to be seen how they are going to crappity smack the west.

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Reply #21 - 04/18/23 at 10:45:09

I also think that a political preference, is not really a good way to judge a batterys polluting capacity.

Yeah,, show me the data,,

You seem to have an appropriately dark view of the world.. Don't fight for a Team.
Fight for what makes sense, the truth, the people who demand I follow the Science, which ,Due To Observation, the Science is shown to be nothing. Yet those are the people who demand I also believe a man can get some high heels, a purse and dress and declare himself a woman and By Gosh, there She stands in all her glory. And it's not looking good for the women. So far the best women are actually men. Beauty pageant, woman of the year, World Record weight lifting and records set in swimming. Some Muslim dude just got busted for kikkinAss in a chess tournament. They got interested in him because he was winning too easily. The burka just didn't cut it..
And suddenly, half of society can't tell you what a woman is.

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Reply #22 - 04/19/23 at 03:28:53

I also think that when a liar files a lawsuit against a liar that doesn't necessarily bring forth the truth.

It would be much more interesting if the judge could be a wise man, and could say; Hey what about those voting machines? Prove to me that they are watertight, because I want to make sure that democracy is not in danger.

It all gets a lot juicier this way.

I also think that is actually a question that is on the mind of the entire population so let's not deny the elephant.

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 13896 Gender:	Re: Electrification Reply #23 - 04/19/23 at 04:05:38 The pandemic taught us a lot of things, and one of those is often people labeled as experts by the corporate media-machine are not necessarily experts. They’re advocates for the political ideology of the news organization.
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zevenenergie Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1782 The Netherlands Den Haag	Re: Electrification Reply #24 - 04/19/23 at 04:07:19 I come from the Netherlands and in the Netherlands we think practically and are very direct. Let's face it. Why don't we have an independent study of some 50 gifted young hackers who are allowed to unleash their skills on the voting machines? What kind of ballless people are you if you don't throw that demand on the table?
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Reply #25 - 04/19/23 at 10:48:28

Trading Trucks, doing it for years. F-150 XLT, crew cab, 6.5 box.
(NEVER buy new. unless you lease)

Had a 2011 with 80,000 miles, bought in 2018 with 30,000, V8 5.0, 19.1 MPG average over 50,000 miles,.
6 months ago Traded for a 2019, with 34,000 miles, with 3.5 V6, Twin Turbo.
At the Same driving, Same roads, Same amount of pulling, Same weights, 9,000 miles, 14.8 MPG

So 8 years newer technology, 750 pounds lighter, 2 cylinders less, it is,
4 + gallons per mile LESS !!!!!!!!!!
What a IMPROVEMENT !

WAY TO GO, woke, DFI, FDS, Socialists.

OH but wait, the ELECTRIC truck is here.
(And ya can’t pull your hat off, on a windy day, going downhill, with it)

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Reply #26 - 04/19/23 at 11:15:35

zevenenergie wrote on 04/19/23 at 03:28:53:

I also think that when a liar files a lawsuit against a liar that doesn't necessarily bring forth the truth.

It would be much more interesting if the judge could be a wise man, and could say; Hey what about those voting machines? Prove to me that they are watertight, because I want to make sure that democracy is not in danger.

It all gets a lot juicier this way.

I also think that is actually a question that is on the mind of the entire population so let's not deny the elephant.

Well, if I was running things, as soon as there was uproar and outrage and accusations that I stole the election, I would open the door to anything and everything.
If I actually won.
How better to solve the problem?
Prove it to them and rub their noses in it.
Why isn't That the first response?
If transparency doesn't exist, why should anyone Trust?

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