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zipidachimp Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1459 surrey, b.c. Gender:	Right-Sized Renaissance ! 08/23/23 at 21:48:46 Just noticed a slew of OEMs are bringing a raft of new mid-sized bikes to market. Honda, Triumph, Kawasaki, RE, Moto Morini, are introducing new 400cc to 750cc street models. Typically, at the tail-end of my riding life, timing has never been my strength. Cheers! or rather Rats!
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5400 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Right-Sized Renaissance ! Reply #1 - 08/23/23 at 22:13:43 Screw your timing , just buy the one you want. Just do your homework first
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springman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2244 Spring, Texas Gender:	Re: Right-Sized Renaissance ! Reply #2 - 08/24/23 at 11:05:12 You missed on Zipi. CF Moto 450 CL-C.
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Reply #3 - 08/24/23 at 16:26:06

The CF Moto 450 has a liquid-cooled 450cc DOHC engine with a 270-degree crank and a bore and stroke of 77.0mm x 55.2mm1. It produces a claimed 50 hp at 9,500 rpm and 28.8 lb.-ft. of torque at 7,600 rpm1. The bike has a claimed curb weight of 370 pounds1. Other specifications include:
Largo x Ancho x Altura: 1990x735x1130 mm

I'm not excited about the fat tires,, haven't seen the price, but I like the look and weight.

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zipidachimp Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1459 surrey, b.c. Gender:	Re: Right-Sized Renaissance ! Reply #4 - 08/25/23 at 23:53:14 never heard of CFmoto ! Local Triumph dealer has every model, who knew? Priced similar to KTM, not cheap. Will have to investigate. Kawi 400 Eliminator will be $8200 here. At that price I can buy a Meteor and a Hunter, or 3 S40s ! I like Kawi quality, but that's a bit much. Cheers!
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5400 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Right-Sized Renaissance ! Reply #5 - 08/27/23 at 18:20:22 I just seen a Kawi 400 eliminator sc for $7300. As new bikes go it looks alright , like a naked standard. Lots of year end sales.
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zipidachimp Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1459 surrey, b.c. Gender:	Re: Right-Sized Renaissance ! Reply #6 - 08/27/23 at 23:00:37 I saw US msrp at $6700. Can $ is 0.73 US. Some markup ! Cheers!
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sjaskow - FSO Senior Member Offline Posts: 367 Frozen Tundra of MN Gender:	Re: Right-Sized Renaissance ! Reply #7 - 08/28/23 at 10:53:29 The Moto Morini Seiemmezzo looks really nice but at ~7500, it's a too expensive as a 2nd bike for me. There was also a blurb in this month's AMA magazine saying Triumph is shooting for KTM 390 prices for their new 400s. That'd be ~6K for the street bike and ~7.5K for the adventure one.
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jcstokes Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com is very useful Posts: 2142 Mauku New Zealand Gender:	Re: Right-Sized Renaissance ! Reply #8 - 08/28/23 at 12:14:11 I think CF Moto is Chinese, I saw some in a dealer in Melbourne Australia, while visiting there a couple of weeks ago.
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Reply #9 - 08/29/23 at 04:13:27

sjaskow - FSO wrote on 08/28/23 at 10:53:29:

The Moto Morini Seiemmezzo looks really nice but at ~7500, it's a too expensive as a 2nd bike for me.

There was also a blurb in this month's AMA magazine saying Triumph is shooting for KTM 390 prices for their new 400s. That'd be ~6K for the street bike and ~7.5K for the adventure one.

As If riding a bike on the street Isn't an Adventure..

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Reply #10 - 08/29/23 at 05:54:38

jcstokes wrote on 08/28/23 at 12:14:11:

I think CF Moto is Chinese.

I have a bit of trouble spending my money on these new motorcycle lines from China, India....etc. They just have not had time to prove that they are building a quality/durable product that will provide a positive ownership experience - one that includes reliable service and also the ability to sell the bike when the time comes to get something else. With the used Honda/Suzuki motorcycles I have bought - I have been able to resell them for nearly what I paid for them a few years earlier.

I see lots of Chinese scooters in Craigslist that are not running and in need of repair - but there could also be plenty of them on the streets that are doing just fine. I initially felt the same way about the KIA and Hyundai cars, and they seem to be doing just fine.

I believe Royal Enfield has shown itself to be a good choice - I am not sure about companies like CF Moto......only time will tell if they are good motorcycles. I just can't see myself buying a new CF Moto when I can get a good used Honda/Suzuki/Yamaha/Kawasaki/BMW/MotoGuzzi for the same amount of money.

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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5400 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Right-Sized Renaissance ! Reply #11 - 08/29/23 at 05:55:21 Jog , Ain’t that the truth ! Remember EVERYTHING is out to KILL YOU ! Adventure is a drug , the more you get the more you want
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Reply #12 - 08/29/23 at 06:34:39

Cfmoto share engines with KTM , CF share assembly plants with KTM. I’m almost sure it’s the same company that owns KTM , Chinese owned. About KTM quality in comparison to CF would be good reading. Not because it’s Chinese but I just don’t like any of the bikes either company makes. I would try a Chinese bike. I would beat the tar out of it , not abuse it. Just see if it’s built good , only oil changes for maintenance.

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jcstokes Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com is very useful Posts: 2142 Mauku New Zealand Gender:	Re: Right-Sized Renaissance ! Reply #13 - 08/29/23 at 20:47:03 CF Moto is the Zhejiang Chunfeng Power Oo.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18313 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Right-Sized Renaissance ! Reply #14 - 08/31/23 at 02:12:21 Even the Chinese can't keep them running! (I understand that there could be many reasons they are in a junk yard....this is just an attempt at cheap humor).
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