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I'm lovin that superimposed CAD drawing. Really shows the difference between the 3 angle and 5 angle. I really wish I had your IT skills. Being able to whip those CAD drawings up is really beneficial. Nice job.
Zevengerie, if I understand correctly, you are suggesting a 35 to 38 degree back cut on the valve rather than a 30 degree. That's a good suggestion. You could do the 35 degree back cut and then flow test, then do a 30 degree backcut and compare the data. I can see how the 35 degree might direct the flow in a more advantageous trajectory. My Gizmatic only has the ability to cut 30 degrees, maybe a little lathe work on old junk valves is in order.
"I am considering fitting new seats, to advance the valves one millimeter into the combustion chamber"
Finn, I would reconsider this idea. The flat-top pistons are already running compression ratios on the ragged edge of detonation. Although I have not encountered any issues with the 94mm pistons, I am having some detonation problems with the 97mm pistons. That makes sense since the 97mm pistons inherently drive up the compression ratio. As I recall, you are running a 94mm. If you make those valves proud in the combustion chamber you will most likely tip the CR over the edge. I am finding that you can't massage the combustion chamber more than about 1cc. That's not enough to mitigate the problem. When I originally came up with the flat-top idea, I asked for a 10cc trench cut in the top of the piston. That would have resulted in a CR around 10:1. Instead, Wiseco did a simple radiused dish in the piston top. That only provided 5.2 cc of additional volume. The CR on the 94mm is up around 10.8:1. It seems to work but it's right on the ragged edge. The 97mm flat tops are up around 11.4:1. I think that's too high.
When you go to those 35mm valves, I think you should be thinking about adding a little more combustion chamber volume. Try to get the CR down to 10.5:1 or less. Setting your valves proud may seem like a good idea for flow but it's gonna reduce your combustion chamber volume. Don't overlook the fact that the improved flow is gonna increase the dynamic CR. You want your combustion chamber at least 55cc, but 56 or 57 would be better. If you want to really trick it out, trench cut your piston and get the CR down to a more reasonable 10:1. It's carbureted with no engine management system (no vacuum retard, no knock sensor, no fuel enrichment, etc.). It's right on the precipice of detonation.
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