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02/23/24 at 07:39:06
 
In Vitro Fertilization
Assisted reproductive technology procedure (ART) in which a women’s eggs are fertilized by sperm in a laboratory instead of inside the fallopian tube

If a cluster of cells is a life... destroying them is murder.
This logical fallacy will end the hopes of millions of couples hoping to have a child
Is that a pro life position?

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Reply #1 - 02/23/24 at 09:16:46
 
I don’t agree with the decision but that’s what you abortion-for-birth control zealots have forced those who give a $hit about unborn children into. There’s no common-sense boundary with leftist. Abortion at any time for any reason, open borders to let new voters cross, boys dressing up as girls and destroying girls sports, paying off student loans, the list is endless. And those uncompromising positions create essentially a battleground. Leftist are like Hamas, you’ll use any tactic to “win” even if destroys the very country you live in. Leftist=viruses.

I suspect it will be quickly countered with legislation from the state.
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Reply #2 - 02/23/24 at 09:28:49
 
Sorry bud, but this is all you.
These actions are taken by Right Wing religious zealots,
Defining a cluster of cells as a human being has consequences.
Millions of women forced to birth unwanted babies and millions of couples wanting children prevented from having them.
Medical dangers to women, and children born with fatal deformities.
All on you.
You could have left things alone.

...and this will lose you an another election
80% of voters disagree with what's going on

Thousands  of years defined life at viability/or the "quickening".  Now that is changed.
It is a clusterfkk... and it will be reversed.

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Reply #3 - 02/23/24 at 09:40:41
 
Republicans struggle to respond to Alabama embryo ruling
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/23/politics/republicans-alabama-embryo-ruling/ind...
This latest battle – over deeply personal health care decisions and beliefs about when life begins – is inherently political since it was precipitated by anti-abortion activists who have been waging public campaigns on the issue for years.
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Reply #4 - 02/23/24 at 13:59:39
 
You could have left things alone.

Says the group who took limited, 1st trimester to  killing perfectly health babies for birth control and full term ,partial birth. You know you have representatives from your group who have mentioned the window after birth, as long as three months for the mother, to terminate the child.

You let doctors to cut the sexual organs off of confused13 and 14 year olds and call it healthcare. Everything you get involved with, you extrapolate to ridiculous ends. You pretend someone’s mental delusions deserve to be validated to the point everyone else suffers. You’re like little children put in power. And the result is a push back from the right and in this case, a bad decision.

January 6th was no insurrection but darn I wonder how much better we’d be if it was.
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Reply #5 - 02/23/24 at 16:19:51
 
 The interesting part here is that in Alabama the frozen embryos must be frozen forever now or the guy shutting off the fridge commits child murder.

 The appropriate thing to do here is for Alabama to no longer allow the extraction of eggs for fertility/preservation reasons.  Those humans should not, in Alabama, have children unless they can do it by standard sexual intercourse.

 At the end of the day, who actually gets the murder charge?  The parents, the clinician extracting the egg, the clinic staff and the company providing the equipment (murder weapons) I would imagine since they would all be complicit in murdering a human child.
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Reply #6 - 02/23/24 at 22:02:48
 
Ever notice how many abortions are for non-whites?  Why is that?
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Reply #7 - 02/24/24 at 05:44:57
 
buster6315 wrote on 02/23/24 at 22:02:48:
Ever notice how many abortions are for non-whites?  Why is that?

That’s a Willie Sutton type question. He robs banks because that’s where the money is. Planned Parenthood operates in black communities because of there’s a high rate of out of wedlock pregnancies for one and two, they’ve managed to remove any shame over abortions so business is booming. At one time, it was reported that over 70% of pregnancies of African Americans  in NYC were ended by abortion.

Democrats have killed more blacks than anyone.

And planned parenthood is an organization founded on the concept of eugenics so their very foundation is racist.
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Reply #8 - 02/24/24 at 06:48:09
 
Good one!

Planned parenthood originally frowned on abortion, instead, promoted birth control.  Yes, eugenics was the goal. Planned parenthood now uses abortion as birth control, and makes a buck doing it!  How sad.
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Reply #9 - 02/24/24 at 08:16:12
 
How is life generally determined ?  
If you are in an accident and are taken to the ER, what does the Doc look for to determine if you are alive ?  It’s your heart beat.
When does a babies heart beat begin ?  A couple of weeks after conception, before a woman even knows she is pregnant.
If left alone in the womb a human baby will emerge in due time.  It’s been this way since we were created.  
To interrupt this miraculous event by burning a baby to death with a highly saline solution or cutting the baby in pieces with a knife or scissors is nothing but the murder of a child.

So when is it ever ok to kill a living baby in the womb ?

NEVER


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Reply #10 - 02/24/24 at 09:09:24
 


January 6th was no insurrection but darn I wonder how much better we’d be if it was.
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Reply #11 - 02/24/24 at 09:47:54
 
Evangelism is more prudish than Jesus
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Reply #12 - 02/24/24 at 10:06:25
 

So when is it ever ok to kill a living baby in the womb ?


 But is it ok to destroy embryos outside of a human body?  There is no heartbeat at that time since it is frozen.
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Reply #13 - 02/24/24 at 12:59:08
 
I know from a reliable source that the human spirit only enters the body after 3 months. An arbortion is traumatic for the mother who carried the child and carries the spirit in her aura. What it is like for the new soul is a bit unclear to me because the soul only attracts a personality at birth, even though it has already had imprints in the womb. I personally find it strange to label an embryo outside the mother as a human being. At that stage, all embryos of all mammals are almost identical.

I find it strange that we are suddenly going to regulate this by law, you could now also take a woman who loses her fetus in the first month to court for murder because she drove over a bumpy road.

I just see it as a case of thoughtlessly cobbling together a law by people who do not recognize the responsibility for the implications of their mistakes.
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Reply #14 - 02/24/24 at 13:17:35
 
It would be the exact same cluster of cells in the woman or outside her body.
You can't call one a living human and not the other.

Wasn't this all better when a woman had a choice?
Who better to decide?
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