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Re: Savage Trans/Clutch Issue
Reply #15 - 10/01/24 at 17:42:55
 
Cleaned, zoomed, lighted, cropped…I still can’t see no index mark.  I’m blind!
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Reply #16 - 10/01/24 at 18:47:37
 
badwolf wrote on 09/25/24 at 20:39:13:
Sounds like the shifting rod is hitting the bottom of the left side case. On most bikes to change the positon of the shifter you move the shifter on the spline that comes out of the case, not so with the S40.  If you move the shifter linkage on the spline the rod willl hit the case and you will have trouble. There should be a punch mark on the splined shaft and the linkage that goes on it. LINE THEM UP. To move the shifter adjust the length of the rod.
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And, it looks like the shift linkage could be bent.  It needs to be straight or it could break.   It happened to my bike.  The shifting got mushy, I couldn't get into 1st gear or neutral, and the linkage snapped.

Thankfully, the bike was in second gear and I wasn't far from home.
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Reply #17 - 10/01/24 at 20:19:01
 
Blowing up both pics, the arms look the same. The rod however is closer to the case on the black bike. Most likly bent, or something modified on the front end.
Get down close and have someone else shift it. (engine off) It will be hitting the case. You should see marks in the paint on the case.
Take the whole assy off and look for a bent rod, and post a pic.
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Re: Savage Trans/Clutch Issue
Reply #18 - 10/02/24 at 07:05:28
 
I saw the little mark on the side of the spline and seems to be right. I took a photo of the placement of the shift lever and it's in between the two marks. I can try to change back the shorter rod and see if that fixes it.

Changing the angle of the shifter linkage didn't really help and It's really hard to put it in gear. I have to put alot of force on the foot lever in order to shift. But I also still don't feel the shifting from 2nd and on.

Sure didn't want to have to drain the oil again.

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Re: Savage Trans/Clutch Issue
Reply #19 - 10/02/24 at 21:23:43
 
Arty,  You are looking at 2 different things here. Monkeying with the clutch adjustment is NOT going to fix a shifting issue. Once you are moving you should be able to shift up and down without touching the clutch lever, it won't be smooth, but the bike will do it. I have ridden 60 miles home with a broken clutch cable, had to come to a dead stop 3 times. Wasn't pretty, but I made it.
A shifting issue is a shifting issue,
A clutch issue is a clutch issue.
If you can start the bike pull in the clutch and put in gear, any gear, and hold the clutch in and the bike does not move, the clutch is disengaging.
If you let the clutch out and the bike moves, the clutch is engaging.
That is enough to tell you the clutch is good enough to ride the bike.
Not shifting is a different thing totaly. Either your linkage is messed up or,,,,,,, you have internal tranny issues, they make loud noises and poke holes in the cases.
I still think the shifting linkage rod is hitting the case.
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Re: Savage Trans/Clutch Issue
Reply #20 - 10/03/24 at 05:45:27
 
The OEM grear shift rod needs to be straight and properly adjusted.


Shift linkage rod


Bent shift rod


Broken rod
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Reply #21 - 10/03/24 at 06:41:43
 
So I put back the standard clutch pin, but the bike is still hard to shift. It's almost like it just skips 2-4 gear. I can hear a click on each gear, but the click is light and definately can't control it with my foot.

I've straightened the rod, but it seems to be still bending so I guess I need to replace that.
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Re: Savage Trans/Clutch Issue
Reply #22 - 10/03/24 at 11:03:27
 
If the rod is flexing, bending, and out of adjustment, it's probably the issue.  

I would remove the rod and confirm the bike will shift gears before replacing it.  You can use a wrench for extra leverage and you may have to roll the bike forward to get the gear to engage.
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Re: Savage Trans/Clutch Issue
Reply #23 - 10/18/24 at 14:41:11
 
Ok guys….I figured it out and I feel so so stupid. 🤦‍♂️

Turns out the clip and washer to the lever fell off at some point and water and junk got all up in it. Hammered that sucker off ( I had to beat that lever hard), cleaned, lubed, and installed. Now she’s easy to move and hooked right back up. Voila!

Now just need to install it to my bike and test her out. But I’m pretttttyyy sure this fixed my issue.

But hey, I don’t claim to be smort  🤓
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Re: Savage Trans/Clutch Issue
Reply #24 - 10/18/24 at 15:05:10
 
Some bikes don't have the mark -- my 2013 doesn't. It's annoying.
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Re: Savage Trans/Clutch Issue
Reply #25 - 10/19/24 at 05:13:22
 
Surviving Philly wrote on 10/18/24 at 15:05:10:
Some bikes don't have the mark -- my 2013 doesn't. It's annoying.


Thanks for chiming in.  My ‘06 doesn’t have an index mark either.  Just gotta eyeball it level and make sure it isn’t smacking the case.

Arty Dodger - not sure what clip and washer you are referring to.  Hopefully it solves the problem.
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