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Reply #15 - 10/07/24 at 09:44:39

Another liar.

The production value is astounding though. This guy obviously bought a helicopter and paid a group of CGI experts and paid actors to make it look like he is working with the FAA and FEMA to fly, privately, supplies into NC.

Too bad for him we have social media and thegatewaypundit website to set us straight showing NC is getting "no relief" and the government is stopping "al private aid" from getting in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQAPEBKhMS8

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Reply #16 - 10/07/24 at 09:48:05

More liars. This time an entire pilot's association banded together to lie about their air relief.

As you can see they even got Hickory Airfield staff involved on the ruse and invited paid camera crews to pretend they are seeing real helicopters. Good thing guys like Elon Musk are telling us the truth about the government prohibiting any civilian aid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1kXAkENZFE

Air National Guard did their own media stunt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK2CxgeAD-E

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9086	Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Reply #17 - 10/07/24 at 10:02:25 Obviously this Fire Chief was under FEMA authority to stop this helicopter rescue. It was probably because he had insider information about the weather machine being re-activated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si9kPy7IffU
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29279 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Reply #18 - 10/07/24 at 10:05:45 But Eegore,.. why would Trump lie about that? Why would Republicans be trying to make this sound so bad? Why are $750 cash payments so bad compared to the $500 Trump gave out?
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Reply #19 - 10/07/24 at 10:20:13

Why are $750 cash payments so bad compared to the $500 Trump gave out?

Because when Trump did it the same people didn't pretend that was the ONLY aid, they accurately Observed it was the FIRST immediate payment.

Why would Republicans be trying to make this sound so bad?

To be fair most of the nonsense is from humans of no political preference just making up nonsense online to laugh at people who get mad over things that aren't real.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29279 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Reply #20 - 10/07/24 at 10:44:48 Eegore wrote on 10/07/24 at 10:20:13: To be fair most of the nonsense is from humans of no political preference just making up nonsense online to laugh at people who get mad over things that aren't real. Fair enough
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9960 Minn Gender:	Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Reply #21 - 10/07/24 at 10:49:06 Eegore wrote on 10/07/24 at 08:30:49: *"... Loan forgiveness can be bad policy ..."* Did You have a Student loan to pay for Collage ?
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9960 Minn Gender:	Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Reply #22 - 10/07/24 at 11:00:49 Serowbot wrote on 10/07/24 at 10:05:45: *"...the $500 Trump gave out?"* When was that ? What did a gallon of milk cost ?
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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 6849 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Reply #23 - 10/07/24 at 11:58:28 $750 is a stop gap payment while applications for more relief are processed
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9086	Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Reply #24 - 10/07/24 at 15:15:18 Did You have a Student loan to pay for Collage ? No. Are you able to understand that the SCOTUS never ruled on the Biden/Harris directive on loans made 25 years ago that were PAID is not the same as the loans today that were NOT PAID? Some people refuse to Observe this.
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9086	Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Reply #25 - 10/07/24 at 15:17:12 When was that ? What did a gallon of milk cost ? Lets say a gallon of milk costs $749.99 today. Does that change anything about people claiming humans impacted by the hurricane today only get $750 total and no other aid?
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9960 Minn Gender:	Re: Liars at hurricane relief. Reply #26 - 10/07/24 at 19:48:28 Eegore wrote on 10/07/24 at 15:17:12: *"... Does that change anything about people claiming humans impacted by the hurricane today only get $750 total and no other aid? "* About the SAME as Bot saying Trump ONLY passed out 500.00 ! When it WAS NOT all they got !
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Reply #27 - 10/07/24 at 20:49:34

About the SAME as Bot saying Trump ONLY passed out 500.00 !
When it WAS NOT all they got !

I don't see anything from Serowbot saying it WAS all they got!

Are you able to understand that the SCOTUS never ruled on the Biden/Harris directive on loans made 25 years ago that were PAID is not the same as the loans today that were NOT PAID? Some people refuse to Observe this.

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Re: Liars at hurricane relief.
Reply #28 - 10/08/24 at 13:38:07

Eegore wrote on 10/07/24 at 20:49:34:

... loans made 25 years ago that were PAID is not the same as the loans today that were NOT PAID ...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/02/21/fact-...

(The Link, from the, www.whitehouse.gov, page)

…President Biden announced the approval of $1.2 billion in student debt cancellation for almost 153,000 borrowers currently enrolled in the Saving on a Valuable Education (SAVE) repayment plan. The Biden-Harris Administration has now approved nearly $138 billion in student debt cancellation for almost 3.9 million borrowers through more than two dozen executive actions….

… Already, the President has cancelled more student debt than any President in history – delivering lifechanging relief to students and families – and has created the most affordable student loan repayment plan ever: the SAVE plan. …

… Thanks to the Biden-Harris Administration’s SAVE plan, starting today, the Administration will be cancelling debt for borrowers who are enrolled in the SAVE plan, have been in repayment for at least 10 years and took out $12,000 or less in loans for college. …

… The U.S. Department of Education (Department) identified nearly 153,000 borrowers who are enrolled in SAVE plan who will have their debt cancelled starting this week, and those borrowers will receive an email today from President Biden informing them of their imminent relief. …

… President Biden’s Administration has approved student debt relief for nearly 3.9 million Americans through various actions …

… Since taking office, the Biden-Harris Administration has approved debt cancellation for nearly 3.9 million Americans, totaling almost $138 billion in debt relief through various actions. ...

Guess things have changed.
Use to be, one borrowed money, they repaid it.
Today, one can borrow money, and someone else can repay it !

… Fixing the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program so that borrowers who go into public service get the debt relief they’re entitled to under the law. Before President Biden took office, only 7,000 people ever received debt relief through PSLF. After fixing the program, the Biden-Harris Administration has now cancelled student loan debt for nearly 800,000 public service workers. …

(Wonder if,
that has anything to do with,
‘who is kissing who’s’, ARISE ?)

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .

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Re: Liars at hurricane relief.
Reply #29 - 10/08/24 at 14:44:12

Guess things have changed.
Use to be, one borrowed money, they repaid it.
Today, one can borrow money, and someone else can repay it !

Mostly true. Government loan forgiveness goes back thousands of years. It's in the Bible for instance.

None of this changes the fact that the SCOTUS never ruled/questioned or spoke on the "stroke of a pen" directive that honored the loans made decades ago that were PAID.

Webstermark is taking an Executive Order on one issue and claiming it applies to a totally different one that the SCOTUS reviewed. Complaining about today's loan forgiveness won't change the fact that it is not the same loans.

Are you able to understand that the SCOTUS never ruled on the Biden/Harris directive on loans made 25 years ago that were PAID is not the same as the loans today that were NOT PAID? Some people refuse to Observe this.

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