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Reply #15 - 10/18/24 at 06:43:18
 
thumperclone wrote on 10/18/24 at 00:51:51:
" you don't NEED to be nasty"

Once again the kettle calls the pot black
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #16 - 10/18/24 at 07:10:57
 
"If you don't fight like hell" in the context of getting out the vote, or battling cancer, or a football game is different than saying, "March to the Capital, and if you don't fight like hell..."
The latter is more literal, and the result is the proof
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Reply #17 - 10/18/24 at 07:58:21
 
March to the Capital, and if you don't fight like hell

 That would be more literal if it was actually said.  Again we can't just change things because we don't like who it's about.  Also we can't just say any interpretation of a statement is what the statement meant.

 Since Trump never said that, we can't sit here and say he is complicit in the violence based off of the use of the word "We", and justify it by saying it's more literal by using a made-up quote.

 I can make it easier: Trump said "March to the Capitol, get inside, use force, fight, assault police, get into the Capitol and fight people in a desperate attempt to stop the election!"

 There, now does it make sense to use the quote I made up to justify his complicit behavior?  My opinion, for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is, would be No.


And we fight. We fight like hell And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.

 That's the quote and context of it we need to use.  I don't think everyone thought he meant to physically fight.  That is my opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.
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Reply #18 - 10/18/24 at 08:11:17
 
MnSpring wrote on 10/18/24 at 06:43:18:
thumperclone wrote on 10/18/24 at 00:51:51:
" you don't NEED to be nasty"

Once again the kettle calls the pot black



And after I wrote him such a nice poem,too.
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Reply #19 - 10/18/24 at 08:38:13
 
Eegore wrote on 10/18/24 at 07:58:21:
And we fight. We fight like hell And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.

 That's the quote and context of it we need to use.  I don't think everyone thought he meant to physically fight.  That is my opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.


The proof is in the pudding
What Trump said, inspired thousands to violently ascend upon the Capitol with violence

You're arguing that a person in a crowded theater yelled "Flames" in stead of "Fire"

Trump instigated an insurgency. Period, full stop
Cut the semantics
He will be found iable
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Reply #20 - 10/18/24 at 08:49:34
 
The proof is in the pudding
What Trump said, inspired thousands to violently ascend upon the Capitol with violence

You're arguing that a person in a crowded theater yelled "Flames" in stead of "Fire"


 Incorrect.  I am arguing that the word "we" is not enough proof to implicate Trump.  You are arguing if he incited the Jan 6 actions by using his quotes.

 I personally think it requires the totality of all actions, not cherry-picked quotes.
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Reply #21 - 10/18/24 at 08:50:17
 
a football team and an armed radical mob are hardly comparable
same goes for a coach and a fascist pig
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Reply #22 - 10/18/24 at 09:00:01
 
thumperclone wrote on 10/18/24 at 08:50:17:
a football team and an armed radical mob are hardly comparable
same goes for a coach and a fascist pig

Liar.
Armed mob? Bullschitt
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Reply #23 - 10/18/24 at 09:00:32
 
I know of a Part time,
Assistant,
Not paid,
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who IS,
a fascist pig !!!!!
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Reply #24 - 10/18/24 at 09:24:59
 
Cut the semantics
Trump made a speech... that led thousands to the Capital... Chanting "Hang Mike Pence" and "Nancy, where are you Nancy"... that required emergency evacuation of the building... that injured 140 policemen...
...and he watched the whole thing unfold for hours on TV in his dining room while family and advisors begged him to tell them to stop

He enjoyed it
We all know it
Some of us are appalled, and some relish it
..but, it is what it is
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Reply #25 - 10/18/24 at 09:30:05
 
JOG wrote on 10/18/24 at 09:00:01:
thumperclone wrote on 10/18/24 at 08:50:17:
a football team and an armed radical mob are hardly comparable
same goes for a coach and a fascist pig

Liar.
Armed mob? Bullschitt




your aversion to TRUTH is remarkable
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Reply #26 - 10/18/24 at 09:43:44
 

a football team and an armed radical mob are hardly comparable
same goes for a coach and a fascist pig


 Implicating a human for the use of the word "we" needs to be equal.  You need more proof.  This is my opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.
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Reply #27 - 10/18/24 at 10:10:06
 
You leftist are so completely deranged with hatred for Trump, the most logical statements just completely failed to register with you.

Using your logic, aren’t you and leftist liable for assassinations attempt on trumps life because you’re calling him Hitler and who, if they had a chance to,  wouldn’t kill Hitler if they could?

If Trump, using the word “we” was responsible for your made up insurrection , then what responsibility do democratic members of Congress and others have for the antifa and George Floyd riots, which actually did kill many people and billions of dollars in damage? Are you responsible for that?
I recalled Chuck Schumer and others telling people to take to the streets, and it was during those, “taking to the streets”  that people were killed.

So, are you responsible? The reality is, no, you’re not. And that’s the stupidity of your arguments for saying Trump, arranging for a protest in DC is responsible for your pretend insurrection. And yes, I’m calling it a pretend because it was not an insurrection and I realize will never agree with that but whatever.
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Reply #28 - 10/18/24 at 10:34:35
 
WebsterMark wrote on 10/18/24 at 10:10:06:
You leftist are so completely deranged with hatred for Trump, the most logical statements just completely failed to register with you.

Using your logic, aren’t you and leftist liable for assassinations attempt on trumps life because you’re calling him Hitler and who, if they had a chance to,  wouldn’t kill Hitler if they could?

If Trump, using the word “we” was responsible for your made up insurrection , then what responsibility do democratic members of Congress and others have for the antifa and George Floyd riots, which actually did kill many people and billions of dollars in damage? Are you responsible for that?
I recalled Chuck Schumer and others telling people to take to the streets, and it was during those, “taking to the streets”  that people were killed.

So, are you responsible? The reality is, no, you’re not. And that’s the stupidity of your arguments for saying Trump, arranging for a protest in DC is responsible for your pretend insurrection. And yes, I’m calling it a pretend because it was not an insurrection and I realize will never agree with that but whatever.


I said armed mob
 
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Reply #29 - 10/18/24 at 10:38:49
 

Liar.
Armed mob? Bullschitt [/quote]

guns, clubs, pepper spray, bear spray, flag poles
fact checked   Smiley
yes armed mob
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