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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29278 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: It's not censorship if it's necessary to prote Reply #15 - 10/21/24 at 07:31:05 The complaint you quote about "X" is posted on "X" What does that tell you? ...and it's owned by Elon Musk Trump biggest backer
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JOG Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2055 Longview, Texas Gender:	Re: It's not censorship if it's necessary to prote Reply #16 - 10/22/24 at 07:40:31 The engineer who is making the claim works for Meta. The claim is posted on X. Zuck owns Meta. So, what is your point? I'm thinking you didn't hit the 10 ring.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29278 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: It's not censorship if it's necessary to prote Reply #17 - 10/22/24 at 08:16:41 sorry, I misread I get those guys confused
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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 6849 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: It's not censorship if it's necessary to prote Reply #18 - 10/22/24 at 08:30:44 orange FELON wants to strip broadcaster's license's now that's CENSORSHIP!
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JOG Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2055 Longview, Texas Gender:	Re: It's not censorship if it's necessary to prote Reply #19 - 10/22/24 at 11:21:36 No. That is what happens when someone violates the rules.
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9083	Re: It's not censorship if it's necessary to prote Reply #20 - 10/22/24 at 11:34:43 I'm wondering where the expectation that Meta would not act in their best interest and control what they allow on their property comes from. Why is any of this surprising, and why is it wrong? This is an example of a private business choosing what they allow on their property.
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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 6849 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: It's not censorship if it's necessary to prote Reply #21 - 10/22/24 at 12:46:13 JOG wrote on 10/22/24 at 11:21:36: No. That is what happens when someone violates the rules. total bull!! no such rules exist except in the orange FELON'S warped brain anyone who he disagrees with or disagrees with him is subject to his wrath period
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29278 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: It's not censorship if it's necessary to prote Reply #22 - 10/22/24 at 16:09:48 Rules were violated... so says the orange fellow with 34 felony convictions
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JOG Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2055 Longview, Texas Gender:	Re: It's not censorship if it's necessary to prote Reply #23 - 10/22/24 at 17:40:14 Serowbot wrote on 10/22/24 at 08:16:41: sorry, I misread I get those guys confused I get it. You still don't see how Trump has been the victim of absolute Boss Hogg lawfare? I'm betting you would be able to if it was going against Your Side.
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Reply #24 - 10/22/24 at 17:41:12

Eegore wrote on 10/22/24 at 11:34:43:

I'm wondering where the expectation that Meta would not act in their best interest and control what they allow on their property comes from.

Why is any of this surprising, and why is it wrong?

This is an example of a private business choosing what they allow on their property.

Dude,,just stoppit. You're embarrassing yourself.

Zuck Apologized for Bowing to PRESSURE from the government to censor.

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Reply #25 - 10/22/24 at 19:46:39

Eegore wrote on 10/22/24 at 11:34:43:

"... why is it wrong? ..."

Because the entity said that is NOT How IT IS DONE
YET it WAS.

It is the SAME as a Gas station saying they have 90 octane gas at 4.00 gal.
(when everyone else has 90 octane at 4.50 a gal gas).
YET is actually selling 80 octane gas.

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Reply #26 - 10/23/24 at 05:14:15

Dude,,just stoppit. You're embarrassing yourself.

Zuck Apologized for Bowing to PRESSURE from the government to censor.

Yes. But they are allowed to do that. FB/Meta did nothing illegal. The US Government on the other hand is over-stepping. This is my opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is.

Any business can make a completely legal business decision, using heir own privately owned property, and later decide that decision was not appropriate. None of that gives You a right to their property use, or given them a responsibility to protect your Constitutional rights - so there should be no expectation that FB/Meta would not respond to Government requests.

This whole idea that FB/Meta was doing anything wrong, AND that humans using the service should not have their content removed is targeting the wrong service. FB/Meta have no responsibility to protect your 1st Amendment rights, they can remove your content from their property for any reason and lie to you about why. Or more accurately, just not tell you why.

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Reply #27 - 10/23/24 at 05:28:09

Because the entity said that is NOT How IT IS DONE
YET it WAS.

So FB/Meta "said" they do not moderate content? Specifically Zuckerberg was talking about Covid 19, and FB actually made public statement that they are not moderating that content? The FB/Meta entity said that is NOT How IT IS DONE?

OR did they just omit/not disclose they are doing it due to Government pressure?

My opinion based off the objective truth of documented FB/Meta statements is they never claimed zero content moderation is How IT IS DONE.

It is the SAME as a Gas station saying they have 90 octane gas at 4.00 gal.
(when everyone else has 90 octane at 4.50 a gal gas).
YET is actually selling 80 octane gas.

I disagree with your opinion. First, you are paying for gas. You are not paying for FB/Meta comments. Second there consumer protection laws in regard to lying about product content, and multiple fuel sales regulations. FB/Meta have no such legal responsibilities, and they aren't claiming any human can post anything they want, then removing the content - they are clear they own the platform and can/will delete content.

Again, they are very clear they can and will, and do remove content from their property. Your example is bait and switch which would require FB/Meta to say they do NOT remove or regulate content.

A better example in my opinion, for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is, would be saying a gas station sells gas with no tax (Government regulation/influence) when they actually do.

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Reply #28 - 10/23/24 at 08:29:27

Eegore wrote on 10/23/24 at 05:28:09:

"... So FB/Meta "said" they do not moderate content? ..."

It was IMPLIED. (just like a poster here constantly 'imply's' that something is the Truth, when it is a opinion)

Eegore wrote on 10/23/24 at 05:28:09:

"... OR did they just omit/not disclose they are doing it due to Government pressure?..."

They totally Lied !

Just like CBS totally, completely, and without any regard to the LAW, violated. And now, disavowing any responsibility for their actions.

(Apparently, some UL, WOKE, DFI, SOCIALISTIC ENTITY'S, believe they are ABOVE the law/s, rules, that governs their industry)

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Reply #29 - 10/23/24 at 11:25:44

It was IMPLIED. (just like a poster here constantly 'imply's' that something is the Truth, when it is a opinion)

That's your opinion. My opinion is they never implied they allow all content to be placed on their platform. I see them constantly say they will moderate and remove content from their property.

They literally say they WILL remove content.

They totally Lied !

Just like CBS totally, completely, and without any regard to the LAW, violated. And now, disavowing any responsibility for their actions.

Incorrect, FB/Meta does not have the same legal obligations as CBS. This here is another example of the problem - thinking FB/Meta is violating laws that broadcast television have to follow. They aren't. They have no obligation to protect your 1st Amendment rights, they can do what they want with their own property in regards to what they allow to be posted.

FB/Meta have never "said" or LIED! that they are not removing content. They specifically say they DO remove content. They said they were "fighting misinformation" the entire time.

Just because you don't like what they did doesn't make it illegal. Zuckerberg doesn't like what he did - but that does not make it illegal.

But I get it, one has to make it sound worse so they can claim their opinion is fact and say FB/Meta violated the LAW. Billy broke a window, and Bobby hangs out with Billy so Bobby also broke a window.

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