Didn't do it intently.
     However.

It looks like you DID READ it.

Unlike "Such an audacious claim" first post !


Just for you, here is a third time,
   Just for you



Windmills, and the very vast amount of photovoltaic,
are nothing but a scam.

They have nothing to do with,
saving the planet’.

They BOTH, cost MORE to, Manufacture/Install/Fix/Maintain/Replace,
then they can EVER make !

 Solar used to be up for debate but the manufacturing cost has gone down so much, and there are enough still producing that the production is finally under-cost.

 Unless... you calculate in the batteries.

Eegore wrote on 01/26/25 at 18:22:17:


In another life, I think it’s been 18 years ago, I work for a company that supplied key materials for energy storage systems under development. Two of the systems were the leading candidates at the time. I did a lot of studying up on energy storage and was fortunate enough to travel to Japan to discuss supplying our key product line and also to another technology located in Vancouver.

18 years later, these are very minor niche suppliers in the energy storage system today. Energy storage in the size needed to make solar and wind a regular part of the energy grid do not exist at this point economically and people have been working on this for two or three decades with no success.

thumperclone wrote on 01/26/25 at 17:32:01:


Please tell all of us,
What is the cost :

To take down Windmill blades ?
To cut them up to size to transport on the road ?
To dig a HUDGE hole in the ground to place them ?,  
    (Because they can NOT BE RECYCLED)
Why in the, ‘windmill farms’, 40 to 50 % are NOT Moving ?
Why, 10% are BLACK from fire “
How many GALLONS of oil it takes to run them ?
Where does that OIL come from ?
What is the cost to remove photovoltaic panels ?
   (Which are classed as,  “ hazardous waste”, MATERIAL ?)
“If a solar panel will be disposed, the generator must make a hazardous waste determination and, if the panel is hazardous, it must be managed under the hazardous waste requirements in 40 CFR Parts 262 through 268.’
“solar panels are not covered by the shredded circuit board exclusion to the definition of solid waste’
“shredded and put into a product that is placed on the land) would be considered a solid waste,’

And on and on and on and on.

All of the, still Experimental, solar/wind creation of elect,
            Is STILL NOT, a viable option,
      Perhaps someday it will be,
 BUT  NOT  TODAY  !!!!!!!

it was 66 years from the first powered flight to the first moon landing
innovation takes time
todays I want it now mentality needs patience

Serowbot wrote on 01/27/25 at 07:30:00:



That is true. However, for government to Decide for the people that they Will develop the technology and the people pay for it WHILE it is inefficient and in many ways Counter To the Stated Purpose FOR the change, namely, being good for the environment, that is not how things are supposed to be. All the mining, the particular elements, it's Not even close. The toxic crap that is in the windmills and solar panels is problematic.
Add all of that to the Very debatable Need for the whole Green movement and I don't agree with any of it.
If someone sees a market and they can develop and provide a product, great, go for it.
For the goobs to demand it?
Pound sand.

todays I want it now mentality needs patience

EXACTLY!
The Goobs and the Leftards need to Siddown, Shaddup and ALLOW THE MARKET to develop. Demanding the technology BE  is wrong..
Thank YOU for seeing that.

Here’s a perfect example of what I just typed. I clicked over to real clear energy and there was this article about a big salmon and avocado. Left us would just as soon Africans create energy by using pedal power generators or some thing. I think the time has come for Africa to say enough.

“Later this month, African leaders and policymakers will gather at Dar es Salaam, Tanzania – East Africa’s most populous city – for the highly anticipated “Mission 300 Africa Energy Summit.”

Mission 300 is an initiative to provide electricity to 300 million Africans by 2030. Success would have profound implications for a continent that has more than 600 million lacking basic access to electricity and millions more with unreliable power supplies that stifle economic development.

However, summit supporters – the World Bank and African Development Bank – have opposed fossil fuel projects in the recent past. Meeting the Mission 300 objective will require Africa’s heads of state to be bold – and unyielding – in pressing their intentions to utilize hydrocarbons to generate electricity.

Africa’s Time to Prosper

For too long, African nations have been caught between climate commitments that discourage the use of fossil fuels and a desperate need for the reliable energy that coal, oil and natural gas provide.

The time has come for African leaders to unapologetically embrace their natural resources and chart a course that prioritizes citizens' needs over a vacuous international agenda based on pseudoscience and power politics.”