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Reply #30 - 02/07/25 at 06:42:12
 
Security surveillance cameras have become generally accepted and the intended use is pretty obvious.  Honest people don’t have a problem with those cameras.

Some random dude with a camera, using his “power of silence”, or playing passive-aggressive with people, and throwing off a creepy vib with an attitude WILL rightfully bother some people.  Especially when his intentions are unknown.

One day, maybe some dude exercising his right not to be filmed will hold up his hand in front of the camera lens to block his being filmed.  I can envision a scenario where the cameraman then “accidentally” bumps into his hand and his camera accidentally gets shoved into the back of his skull.

When the police arrive after the tussle, witnesses will say that the creepy cameraman deliberately walked into and pushed the other guy which resulted in the camera getting planted in his face.   Shocked Tongue  Not something I would do, but I know people.
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Reply #31 - 02/07/25 at 07:18:33
 
[quote author=79595B534E593C0 link=1738525131/15#26 date=1738935752]

 It seems like a reasonable expectation that remaining at a non-public location after being asked to leave by the humans in control of that location, that law enforcement would be called.


 Its not unreasonable to be silently standing in a post office when waiting to collect mail that is at the post office. When the police arrived they instructed the post office employee to give me my mail. I then left. Smiley


 I know with all the videos of women being sold online engaging in mundane tasks, it makes sense that some are weary of being filmed.  While it is rare for them to be assaulted by a customer that master bates to her footage, it's still going to be on their minds as a risk.

I'm not responsible for what people imagine.
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Reply #32 - 02/07/25 at 07:26:48
 
ThumperPaul wrote on 02/07/25 at 06:42:12:
Security surveillance cameras have become generally accepted and the intended use is pretty obvious.  Honest people don’t have a problem with those cameras.

Some random dude with a camera, using his “power of silence”, or playing passive-aggressive with people, and throwing off a creepy vib with an attitude WILL rightfully bother some people.  Especially when his intentions are unknown.

One day, maybe some dude exercising his right not to be filmed will hold up his hand in front of the camera lens to block his being filmed.  I can envision a scenario where the cameraman then “accidentally” bumps into his hand and his camera accidentally gets shoved into the back of his skull.

When the police arrive after the tussle, witnesses will say that the creepy cameraman deliberately walked into and pushed the other guy which resulted in the camera getting planted in his face.   Shocked Tongue  Not something I would do, but I know people.


The nice thing about cameras is that they don't lie. Wink    

PS I NEVER call the police.
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Reply #33 - 02/07/25 at 07:46:24
 
"I'm not responsible for what people imagine."

If you act like a jerk and people imagine that you are a jerk, you are responsible for what they"imagine"

You said in a previous post that making people dislike you makes you happy.

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Reply #34 - 02/07/25 at 07:51:06
 
Except in the world of AI, CGI, and when the camera suddenly turns off.

You’re obviously free to do what you want, you asked a seemingly rhetorical question, you really don’t care what others think or how your attitude and behavior affects others, and I’ve simply tried to articulate that it’s really not the camera.  

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Reply #35 - 02/07/25 at 08:02:00
 
[quote author=605E5F53415D5C320 link=1738525131/30#33 date=1738943184]"I'm not responsible for what people imagine."

If you act like a jerk and people imagine that you are a jerk, you are responsible for what they"imagine"

I don't think  standing silently with a camera is acting like a jerk, but you may define the word jerk differently


You said in a previous post that making people dislike you makes you happy.

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I will clarify that by saying making jerks dislike me makes me happy


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Reply #36 - 02/07/25 at 08:14:33
 
ThumperPaul wrote on 02/07/25 at 07:51:06:
Except in the world of AI, CGI, and when the camera suddenly turns off.

You’re obviously free to do what you want, you asked a seemingly rhetorical question, you really don’t care what others think or how your attitude and behavior affects others, and I’ve simply tried to articulate that it’s really not the camera.  



You are right to say I really don't care what people think, but I am mystified why they care so much about me and my camera. It's as if I am violently stealing something from them which is obviously not the case.


People who could not care less about being recorded do not make entertaining subjects.

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Reply #37 - 02/07/25 at 08:51:49
 

I'm not responsible for what people imagine.

 Nobody is.  However a woman being followed around by a man with a camera should be scrutinized more than a man standing on a public street with a camera.  No matter what anyone imagines.

 Anytime I see guys trying to film girls at the gymnastic studio, I always intervene.  I don't intervene when some guy is standing at the doors to the Court House filming everyone going in or out.  Typically all they want is for someone to be upset about it.  Nobody is going to watch hours of "documentary" where nothing happens but what they already see all day.
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Reply #38 - 02/07/25 at 09:53:08
 
Pathetic you get off to agitating people and that’s entertaining to you.  What a sad miserable life you lead.  

And don’t confuse my “disdain” for “caring”.  Enjoy flattering yourself.
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Reply #39 - 02/07/25 at 10:28:04
 
ThumperPaul wrote on 02/07/25 at 09:53:08:
Pathetic you get off to agitating people and that’s entertaining to you.  What a sad miserable life you lead.  

And don’t confuse my “disdain” for “caring”.  Enjoy flattering yourself.


I can see you getting agitated just at the thought of being recorded. It's people like you who make all my efforts worthwhile.  I thank you for your sensitivity.  
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Reply #40 - 02/07/25 at 10:30:53
 
ThumperPaul wrote on 02/07/25 at 06:42:12:
Security surveillance cameras have become generally accepted and the intended use is pretty obvious.  Honest people don’t have a problem with those cameras.

Some random dude with a camera, using his “power of silence”, or playing passive-aggressive with people, and throwing off a creepy vib with an attitude WILL rightfully bother some people.  Especially when his intentions are unknown.

One day, maybe some dude exercising his right not to be filmed will hold up his hand in front of the camera lens to block his being filmed.  I can envision a scenario where the cameraman then “accidentally” bumps into his hand and his camera accidentally gets shoved into the back of his skull.

When the police arrive after the tussle, witnesses will say that the creepy cameraman deliberately walked into and pushed the other guy which resulted in the camera getting planted in his face.   Shocked Tongue  Not something I would do, but I know people.


Well, technically, in both the United States and Canada, you do not have the right to not be filmed in public, though there are exceptions. But you are right in that someone may respond violently. I have heard of people being killed over much less. I am a decent human, so I don't creepily record people.

I will say though, I would exercise this right if there is something worth recording. For example, I saw someone's truck locked onto a repo flat bed in a public parking lot and the guy jumped into the truck and tore it up trying to drive off the flat bed to avoid repo Hilarious. Wish I had a good enough view to record it.

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Reply #41 - 02/07/25 at 10:32:15
 
Eegore wrote on 02/07/25 at 08:51:49:
I'm not responsible for what people imagine.

 Nobody is.  However a woman being followed around by a man with a camera should be scrutinized more than a man standing on a public street with a camera.  No matter what anyone imagines.

 Anytime I see guys trying to film girls at the gymnastic studio, I always intervene.  I don't intervene when some guy is standing at the doors to the Court House filming everyone going in or out.  Typically all they want is for someone to be upset about it.  Nobody is going to watch hours of "documentary" where nothing happens but what they already see all day.


I would film girls and anyone else who does anything in public.   Anyone who expects privacy in public is an idiot.
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Reply #42 - 02/07/25 at 10:35:56
 
TheBabyDerp wrote on 02/07/25 at 10:30:53:
ThumperPaul wrote on 02/07/25 at 06:42:12:
Security surveillance cameras have become generally accepted and the intended use is pretty obvious.  Honest people don’t have a problem with those cameras.

Some random dude with a camera, using his “power of silence”, or playing passive-aggressive with people, and throwing off a creepy vib with an attitude WILL rightfully bother some people.  Especially when his intentions are unknown.

One day, maybe some dude exercising his right not to be filmed will hold up his hand in front of the camera lens to block his being filmed.  I can envision a scenario where the cameraman then “accidentally” bumps into his hand and his camera accidentally gets shoved into the back of his skull.

When the police arrive after the tussle, witnesses will say that the creepy cameraman deliberately walked into and pushed the other guy which resulted in the camera getting planted in his face.   Shocked Tongue  Not something I would do, but I know people.


Well, technically, in both the United States and Canada, you do not have the right to not be filmed in public, though there are exceptions. But you are right in that someone may respond violently. I have heard of people being killed over much less. I am a decent human, so I don't creepily record people.

I will say though, I would exercise this right if there is something worth recording. For example, I saw someone's truck locked onto a repo flat bed in a public parking lot and the guy jumped into the truck and tore it up trying to drive off the flat bed to avoid repo Hilarious. Wish I had a good enough view to record it.



Please define "creepily record people"
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Reply #43 - 02/07/25 at 12:06:25
 
blod wrote on 02/07/25 at 10:35:56:
Please define "creepily record people"


I don't have an exact definition. Holding up your camera and recording people going about their normal life is considered weird and creepy. I didn't create the social norms of society. To add on to this, ignoring someone' s request for you to not film them makes it worse.
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Reply #44 - 02/07/25 at 12:10:36
 
TheBabyDerp wrote on 02/07/25 at 12:06:25:
blod wrote on 02/07/25 at 10:35:56:
Please define "creepily record people"


I don't have an exact definition. Holding up your camera and recording people going about their normal life is considered weird and creepy. I didn't create the social norms of society. To add on to this, ignoring someone' s request for you to not film them makes it worse.


I would define "creepy" as recording someone covertly.  I would not consider  openly recording someone as being creepy.  It might qualify as weird but not  creepy

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