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Reply #15 - 04/30/25 at 08:00:19
 
WebsterMark wrote on 04/30/25 at 03:21:02:
I would rather have Joe Biden as my neighbor than Donald Trump..


Could you needlepoint that on a pillow for me?  Huh
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Reply #16 - 04/30/25 at 09:08:44
 
MnSpring wrote on 04/30/25 at 06:39:34:
Needles wrote on 04/30/25 at 05:18:01:
"...  I'm a full-on socialist, ...  
China is showing how capitalism should be applied--- "


You are in the wrong Nation.
Instead of calling people NAZI's
Simply go to a Nation that has, REAL DICTATORS.


the white house has a tempoary dictator resident
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Reply #17 - 04/30/25 at 09:38:36
 
Needles wrote on 04/30/25 at 05:18:01:
I DO criticize Biden. I criticized Hillary, and I criticized Obama. Oh, and I'm NOT a Democrat, and not a liberal. I'm a full-on socialist, registered as Independent. I only vote for the Democrats because that's as left as this country will go. The Democratic Party is actually right center in the US--- nearly the same thing as European conservative parties. There is no Leftist party here.  There is only right center vs fascist right. The MAGATs get all upset about "the left", when there are maybe a dozen actual leftists in the entire Congress and Senate combined, out of 541 total. Obama, Hillary, and Biden are Democratic CONSERVATIVES. That's my beef with all of them. The People want change, and all three dangled progress in front of their voters, then delivered very little, saying change should be gradual. They're corporatists, too, you see. "Capitalism" is what they call feudalism nowadays. It has failed, just like it always has throughout history. Like it or not, China is showing how capitalism should be applied--- with severe restrictions overseen by socialists to protect the People from the predatory capitalists. Kneejerk reactions against the word "socialism" because that was what was taught to you all your life is non-productive.


“Capitalism has failed”….words typed by a guy on a device that interacts with an electronic network that spreads those words across the globe in seconds at a ridiculously low cost all of which was all made possible by entrepreneurs looking to make money.

Socialism brings nothing but poverty. The only reason China has not been torn apart by internal struggles, is because the capitalistic societies in the United States and other countries in the world, prop up their economy by buying products.

Capitalism is the savior of the world. It brings prosperity, health, and a cleaner environment more so than any other system could ever dream of.
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Reply #18 - 04/30/25 at 13:56:24
 
47 is doing his darndest to BE a "real" dictator. No due process? Against the Constitution. Unidentified police? Against the Constitution. The "President" making money from his position? Against the Constitution. Arresting people  (judges) for doing their job? Against the Constitution. Dictatorship came to me (US!). And MAGA put him there.

I never said that I want to make the US into China, but we could use some of the Chinese intolerance for causing embarrassment. Musk, 47, and most of the Republican leadership, would've been in the ground by now. Oh, yes. Billionaires can PURCHASE citizenship in any country they want. They have no patriotism, no loyalty to ANY country. That's why you don't put them in office.
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Reply #19 - 04/30/25 at 14:34:54
 
47 is doing his darndest to BE a "real" dictator. No due process? Against the Constitution. Unidentified police? Against the Constitution. The "President" making money from his position? Against the Constitution. Arresting people  (judges) for doing their job? Against the Constitution. Dictatorship came to me (US!). And MAGA put him there.

Turn off MSNBC dude.
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Reply #20 - 04/30/25 at 15:50:31
 
I don't watch  TV news--- not Fox, not MSNBC, not CBS, none. If it's not certified as unbiased by the IFJ, I never watch it. That means I get most of my news from unbiased foreign sources, since the US news CORPORATIONS are all biased. My first degree was Journalism/English Lit, followed by ones in EE, Computer electronics, and Electronic Voice & Data Communications. 10 years later, I went back to school and got a BSN, then a Masters in Chinese Medicine. I was licensed as a Doctor of Oriental Medicine in New Mexico--- THE hardest state to get a DOM license, since you have to pass all the Family Nurse Practitioner requirements as well as the national Chinese Medicine certification. (In case you're somewhere in the state with no other healthcare provider. ) Can I be fooled? Sure, but I can usually see through BS. I don't really blame 47 for this nuts show--- I blame the Republicans who still back the moron. (47's IQ was 73 in the 1980s. Verified by the US Army.) HE's a convicted felon. He's just trying to stay out of jail. Republicans are the real enemy.
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Reply #21 - 05/01/25 at 00:46:23
 
I hear the passion and frustration in your words, and I can understand where that indignation might come from,  a sense of betrayal, maybe, or lost hope in a system you once believed could change.

What I'm wondering is: how did you come to have such high expectations of politics in the first place? And do you feel that this anger is more about the system itself, or about the people who support it?

You clearly have a strong intellect and a wide range of experience,   have you considered how to use that constructively? I don’t mean that dismissively; it’s just that right now, your messages feel quite black and white. I’m curious what you’re hoping to achieve by expressing things this way.

You describe yourself as a free thinker, and I respect that. But sometimes the tone feels less like independent thinking and more like reacting from a collective frustration,  almost like herd behavior.

You also mention moral superiority, but aside from how you present your own qualifications and views, I wonder: where do you feel that sense of moral clarity really comes through in your approach to people on the forum?
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Reply #22 - 05/01/25 at 05:20:12
 
At the risk of sounding trite, morals are the result of personal honor. Personal honor is a rare thing. Mostly, people in general seem to think honor comes from the laws. That's nonsense. Laws are there for people without a sense of honor of their own. External rules like laws tend to make those people look for loopholes, or ways around the laws. For instance, like it or not, everyone should pay taxes, on a sliding scale--- the more you make, the bigger the percentage of your income you should pay in taxes. That's a fair application, and could be written as a law on less than 1 page of 8 x 11" paper. It was, originally. Over the years, corporations and people rich enough to buy politicians (The legal bribery of public officials in the US is called "lobbying".) have engineered so many loopholes and tax evasion strategies that the tax laws are over 50,000 pages. No normal citizen wrote any of that. If this government is of, by, and for the people, all the laws should be in a form that normal, non-legal people can at least understand it when they read it. Now it's so complicated you can break the tax laws without even knowing it. If Musk had gone into the IRS and tossed out all the addendums to the tax laws, it would have been a good move; instead he 86'd the people actually responsible for collecting the money! DOGE has done the same for every agency it has "audited". On top of that, Musk was personally appointed by 47, without approval from Congress, which automatically makes the appointment illegitimate. Even if he were legit, he'd only have the power of the executive that appointed him. In other words, MUSK cannot override Congress or the SC, any more than 47. Not legally, anyway.  And the Republicans LET 47 get away with it. That's my biggest problem: the Republicans are just evil, and the Dems are cowards, or they are the same party, just like the Chinese have always said.  Yes, DC needed change, but not into 1939 Germany. 47 has done nothing but HURT the average US citizen since his first term.
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Reply #23 - 05/01/25 at 05:39:10
 
Interesting how you make the distinction between personal honor and laws. That does touch on something essential.

But then I wonder: if laws are mainly for people without honor, and the system was built by such people — do you think reform from within is still possible? Or do you see it as if the system must first collapse before something better can emerge?

You clearly believe in justice, that is evident from everything you write. That is why I am curious: what do you think is still feasible within the system as it is now?
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Reply #24 - 05/01/25 at 06:13:47
 
The framework is there. The US Constitution, if followed, specifically delineates the specific duties of the three branches of government. The US is a representative democratic republic. The Republicans try to disavow the "democratic" part; at least they do not think everyone should be allowed to vote. Unfortunately, their criteria are racial or religious bias. The Republicans have degenerated to the lowest form of voter--- ones who vote BECAUSE someone told them to vote that way. They tend to view elections simplistically, usually only on one issue that they imagine to be important. Anti-abortion people are simply voicing their religious ideations--- there is zero science backing them up, but they'll vote for the anti-abortion candidate, no questions asked. Same with gun control: I do own a couple of guns, but I know that there are people that shouldn't be let anywhere near a firearm. It's not the Holy Grail issue the gun nuts imagine it to be. Likewise the imaginary border issue. Before Reagan started arresting the "illegals" themselves, they arrested the EMPLOYERS, and there was no big issue with migrant workers.

Anyway, the mechanism to stop the crazy assed WH occupant is in place. The Republicans are showing that they are no more brave than the Democrats. 47 and his whole entourage are traitors. They are actively working to negate the Constitution, violating the laws, and the Republicans refuse to reign him in. They still think they actually won something...
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Reply #25 - 05/02/25 at 00:14:20
 
You speak with a lot of authority, but in the end, you're just endlessly pointing fingers. Everyone's corrupt, everyone's blind, and somehow only you see it all clearly. Convenient position.

The rest of us are at least trying to engage with the mess. You? You stay on the sidelines, declaring failure like it makes you untouchable.

You call that moral clarity. I call it detachment disguised as wisdom.

If you’ve got something better to offer, say it. If not, maybe stop pretending that criticism alone is a contribution.
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Reply #26 - 05/02/25 at 04:17:33
 
Needles wrote on 05/01/25 at 06:13:47:
The framework is there. The US Constitution, if followed, specifically delineates the specific duties of the three branches of government. The US is a representative democratic republic. The Republicans try to disavow the "democratic" part; at least they do not think everyone should be allowed to vote. Unfortunately, their criteria are racial or religious bias. The Republicans have degenerated to the lowest form of voter--- ones who vote BECAUSE someone told them to vote that way. They tend to view elections simplistically, usually only on one issue that they imagine to be important. Anti-abortion people are simply voicing their religious ideations--- there is zero science backing them up, but they'll vote for the anti-abortion candidate, no questions asked. Same with gun control: I do own a couple of guns, but I know that there are people that shouldn't be let anywhere near a firearm. It's not the Holy Grail issue the gun nuts imagine it to be. Likewise the imaginary border issue. Before Reagan started arresting the "illegals" themselves, they arrested the EMPLOYERS, and there was no big issue with migrant workers.

Anyway, the mechanism to stop the crazy assed WH occupant is in place. The Republicans are showing that they are no more brave than the Democrats. 47 and his whole entourage are traitors. They are actively working to negate the Constitution, violating the laws, and the Republicans refuse to rein him in. They still think they actually won something...



You make Thumper and our fair and balanced moderator, actually look….fair and balanced.

All you’ve done is list delusional talking points, extrapolated to ridiculous partisan ends. Take voting for example. You think Republicans are restricting certain people from voting? What parameters are you suggesting? Age 14? 16? An illegal alien who snuck across the border should be allowed to vote? Should you have to present some type of verification that you’re a valid US citizen before you go to vote? It only takes a few questions to arrive at the obvious conclusion that not everyone in the country should be allowed to vote. So now we’re debating parameters and isn’t that the whole point? To discuss and arrive at a procedure we may not all agree with, but we’re gonna live with.

Zero science involved in the abortion debate? And everyone who is pro-choice does so because of a specific denominational religious affiliation? Again, that’s obviously not true.

Living in our version of a free, capitalistic society is hard. It’s far from perfect and there are plenty of situations where it doesn’t seem fair, that the rich guys get their way. And let’s face it, often times they do. And obviously, both parties are populated with selfish, narcissistic individuals, who only pretend to care about those that they’ve been elected to represent. That’s not unique to one side or the other. My opinion is the conservative, Republican Party, aligns with policies, that I agree with more often than the Democratic Party. That’s a valid point of view open to debate.

But your eyes are not open, it’s the opposite, they’re squeezed tight with only a tiny slit opened to let a very limited wavelength of light through.

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Reply #27 - 05/02/25 at 05:21:35
 
Coming from a supporter of the questionablely legal WH occupant, I'll take that "criticism"  as a compliment. Everything I've stated is fact. If your position looks at fact as biased, your position is wrong. You right wing folks want a dictator; you've made that clear. It is naive to think that dictator is going to be the GOP's pet, though. 47 just refused FEMA aid to Arkansas, currently run by a rabid MAGA supporter, after several towns were damaged by 14 tornadoes.  Y'all didn't win, either. Roll Eyes
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Reply #28 - 05/02/25 at 08:28:47
 
You stated your opinions on the motives behind the policy positions of this Republican administration, you did not state facts.
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Reply #29 - 05/02/25 at 09:25:14
 
WebsterMark wrote on 05/02/25 at 08:28:47:
You stated your opinions on the motives behind the policy positions of this Republican administration, you did not state facts.


what are their motives?
make America great again?  BULL$HIT!
they are succeeding in sidestepping our democracy
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