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Reply #15 - 05/19/25 at 14:00:27
 
zevenenergie wrote on 05/19/25 at 03:40:28:
"... We were occupied by the Germans in the 2nd World War ..."


So in the 40's +,  Some Germans wanted to KILL Jews, any way they could.

Apparently, many of your countrymen, (and women), still/now, believe that should be done.
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Reply #17 - 05/19/25 at 14:17:30
 
MnSpring wrote on 05/19/25 at 14:00:27:
zevenenergie wrote on 05/19/25 at 03:40:28:
"... We were occupied by the Germans in the 2nd World War ..."


So in the 40's +,  Some Germans wanted to KILL Jews, any way they could.

Apparently, many of your countrymen, (and women), still/now, believe that should be done.


Whow???
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Reply #18 - Yesterday at 15:01:06
 
zevenenergie wrote on 05/19/25 at 03:40:28:
"... We were occupied by the Germans in the 2nd World War and that is in our collective consciousness..


"...After Hitler came to power in 1933, many German Jews began to emigrate to the Netherlands. The Netherlands had remained a neutral power during the First World War, and so many German Jews believed that they would be safe from persecution there.

The Netherlands was home to 140,000 Jews, with approximately 75,000 Jews living in the capital, Amsterdam.

Immediately following the Nazi occupation, antisemitic measures were implemented by the Nazis.

Between September and November 1940, Jewish newspapers were closed down, Jewish civil servants were sacked and the assets of all Jewish businesses were registered. Following this, Jewish students were also expelled from schools and universities.

In January 1941, all Jews living within the Netherlands were ordered to register themselves with the SS. A total of 159,806 persons registered, including 19,561 born of mixed marriages. The total also included approximately 25,000 Jewish refugees from Germany.

In the second half of 1941, the Joodse Raad  was forced to provide lists of Jews to work in forced labour camps for the German war effort.

In January 1942, persecution escalated as the Nazis ordered the concentration of Jews in Amsterdam.

In July 1942, the Germans began transporting Jews who had gathered in Amsterdam to Westerbork, a camp in the north-east of the Netherlands. Westerbork was a transit camp , and Jews were then transported again to extermination camps in the east.

The Dutch police actively collaborated and assisted the German authorities in the rounding up of Jews on the streets or in their homes. Dutch railway workers also administered and operated the trains in which Jews were deported to and from Westerbork.

The last train left Westerbork for Auschwitz-Birkenau on 3 September 1944, by which time 107,000 Jews had been deported. Of this number, only 5,200 people survived. ..."


Just don't understand why your Country wants to Kill Jews.
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Reply #19 - Today at 04:31:56
 
The Israeli military discovered the recorded minutes of a high-level Hamas meeting, the Wall Street Journal reported, revealing the true motive for the Oct. 7 terrorist attacks.

According to the document, Hamas leaders ordered the attacks in southern Israel and killed over 1,200 civilians to torpedo peace negotiations between Saudi Arabia and Israel. This confirmed what most analyses have suspected. Hamas’s Gaza chief, Yahya Sinwar, told fellow militants during the Oct. 2, 2023, meeting that an “extraordinary act” was needed to scuttle the talks that he believed marginalized the Palestinian cause and “open the door for the majority of Arab and Islamic countries to follow the same path” of normalizing relations with Israel.
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Reply #20 - Today at 05:18:45
 
MnSpring wrote on Yesterday at 15:01:06:
zevenenergie wrote on 05/19/25 at 03:40:28:
"... We were occupied by the Germans in the 2nd World War and that is in our collective consciousness..


"...After Hitler came to power in 1933, many German Jews began to emigrate to the Netherlands. The Netherlands had remained a neutral power during the First World War, and so many German Jews believed that they would be safe from persecution there.

The Netherlands was home to 140,000 Jews, with approximately 75,000 Jews living in the capital, Amsterdam.

Immediately following the Nazi occupation, antisemitic measures were implemented by the Nazis.

Between September and November 1940, Jewish newspapers were closed down, Jewish civil servants were sacked and the assets of all Jewish businesses were registered. Following this, Jewish students were also expelled from schools and universities.

In January 1941, all Jews living within the Netherlands were ordered to register themselves with the SS. A total of 159,806 persons registered, including 19,561 born of mixed marriages. The total also included approximately 25,000 Jewish refugees from Germany.

In the second half of 1941, the Joodse Raad  was forced to provide lists of Jews to work in forced labour camps for the German war effort.

In January 1942, persecution escalated as the Nazis ordered the concentration of Jews in Amsterdam.

In July 1942, the Germans began transporting Jews who had gathered in Amsterdam to Westerbork, a camp in the north-east of the Netherlands. Westerbork was a transit camp , and Jews were then transported again to extermination camps in the east.

The Dutch police actively collaborated and assisted the German authorities in the rounding up of Jews on the streets or in their homes. Dutch railway workers also administered and operated the trains in which Jews were deported to and from Westerbork.

The last train left Westerbork for Auschwitz-Birkenau on 3 September 1944, by which time 107,000 Jews had been deported. Of this number, only 5,200 people survived. ..."


Just don't understand why your Country wants to Kill Jews.


 Listen carefully: the Germans invaded the Netherlands in 1940. From that moment on, the persecution of Jews began in the Netherlands, led by the German occupiers.

Unfortunately, every country has its traitors — including the Netherlands. Some Dutch people collaborated with the Germans. They were organized in a political movement called the NSB, which stands for National Socialist Movement (in Dutch: Nationaal-Socialistische Beweging).

After the liberation of the Netherlands in 1945, many NSB members were arrested and put on trial. Some were mistreated by the public or even killed. A special prison camp for collaborators was established — for example, Camp Westerbork was used for this purpose after the war.

When the Germans occupied the country, large companies were forced to work for the German war effort. The Nazis wanted to keep the Dutch economy running in order to help finance the Atlantic Wall and support the German war machine.

At the same time, a strong underground resistance emerged. Many brave citizens helped hide Jews from the Nazis. A famous example is Anne Frank. Many ordinary people risked their lives to do what was right.

In fact, in my previous house, I discovered a hidden space that had clearly been used as a hiding place. It was cleverly concealed in a hallway on the second floor and just big enough for three people.

The resistance did what it could under very dangerous circumstances. The Germans were often cruel and ruthless, and people lived in constant fear. Hiding Jews or resisting the regime could lead to arrest, torture, or execution.

The Nazis operated in a systematic and brutal way, often with help from Dutch collaborators in the NSB — which is why they were so deeply hated after the war.


Your country has never been occupied. Your bravoes have never been tested. Ours have. Many times

You twist facts like a politician, to hide the fact that you support a genoside.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u0QsbaWDG9Q
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Reply #21 - Today at 06:47:09
 
zevenenergie wrote on Today at 05:18:45:
"...  Listen carefully: the Germans invaded the Netherlands in 1940. From that moment on, the persecution of Jews began in the Netherlands, led by the German occupiers.
Unfortunately, every country has its traitors — including the Netherlands. Some Dutch people collaborated with the Germans. They were organized in a political movement called the NSB, which stands for National Socialist Movement (in Dutch: Nationaal-Socialistische Beweging).
After the liberation of the Netherlands in 1945, many NSB members were arrested and put on trial. Some were mistreated by the public or even killed. A special prison camp for collaborators was established — for example, Camp Westerbork was used for this purpose after the war.
When the Germans occupied the country, large companies were forced to work for the German war effort. The Nazis wanted to keep the Dutch economy running in order to help finance the Atlantic Wall and support the German war machine.
At the same time, a strong underground resistance emerged. Many brave citizens helped hide Jews from the Nazis. A famous example is Anne Frank. Many ordinary people risked their lives to do what was right.
In fact, in my previous house, I discovered a hidden space that had clearly been used as a hiding place. It was cleverly concealed in a hallway on the second floor and just big enough for three people.
The resistance did what it could under very dangerous circumstances. The Germans were often cruel and ruthless, and people lived in constant fear. Hiding Jews or resisting the regime could lead to arrest, torture, or execution.
The Nazis operated in a systematic and brutal way, often with help from Dutch collaborators in the NSB — which is why they were so deeply hated after the war.
Your country has never been occupied. Your bravoes have never been tested. Ours have. Many times
You twist facts like a politician, to hide the fact that you support a genoside.
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No doubt that many hid/helped the Jews.
No doubt you had  traitors.

    Again,
no doubt many today believe the Jews are routing out Terrorists.
(JUST LIKE many helped the Jews in the 40's)
YET, the majority, (according to your reports) say they now hate Jews !

The question still is, why does your country, hate Jews ?

As to the USA being invaded.
Some have tried, with NO Success !








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Reply #22 - Today at 06:58:06
 
We have many muslims here and there you could say that they hate the jews. (it is quite clear why.)
But the general consensus of the Dutch is that they strongly disapprove of what the jews are doing in gaza.

The illegal expansion of jewish territory and the systematic oppression of the palestinians have also been looked at with disapproval for decades.

We don't hate the jews. in fact one of our football clubs, Ajax call themselves jews (because they are from amsterdam)

So go wank some were else, ok
mister fantasy island....
Your the Nazi here.
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My grandparents suffered greatly under the German occupation, my parents lost their teeth due to malnutrition in the infamous famine winter. The third generation is still traumatized.
And that is why we are against the genoside in Gaza, we sympathize with them.
It is poignant that the Jewish people, are now doing the same as the Nazis.
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The third generation is still traumatized.

 Join the club.  Everyone has some multi-generational sob-story because humans damage each other.  Sympathize all day, but expecting anyone to assist in the more efficient murder of their family or culture is ridiculous.

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Reply #25 - Today at 08:38:34
 
Sympathize all day, but expecting anyone to assist in the more efficient murder of their family or culture is ridiculous.


I am genuinely surprised Shocked

What exactly do you mean by this, That I want Jews to be killed..... Where do you get that idea.??????
What is wrong with you guys?

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Reply #26 - Today at 08:50:51
 
For what Israel does in Gaza it will pay a very high price,
It will have to kill and kill and kill Over and ove and over again. There will be no way back.

Zionism has shown its true colors.
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Reply #27 - Today at 09:55:29
 
zevenenergie wrote on Today at 07:41:57:
"... the Jewish people, are now doing the same as the Nazis.


Not even remotely close !!!!!
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Reply #28 - Today at 10:04:01
 
zevenenergie wrote on Today at 08:50:51:
"... It will have to kill and kill and kill Over and ove and over again. ..."


Probably as long as their are terrorists , who are concealed, by a population of people, who willing to hide them.

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Reply #29 - Today at 11:27:13
 
The table has turned.
For a long time, criticizing Israel was anti-Semitism.
From now on, Israel will have to answer for genocidal and ethnic cleansing.
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