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Reply #30 - 05/21/25 at 13:30:14
 

What exactly do you mean by this, That I want Jews to be killed..... Where do you get that idea.??????

 No.  The consequence of giving aid to Hamas is the expediting of more dead Israelis because Hamas is specifically stating it will continue to attempt to eradicate all of Israel.  

 Sympathize all day long, but any action besides further protecting humans from being killed by other humans who state categorically they will kill when the option presents itself makes no sense.  We put people like that in prison, when we can.  We don't give them food and freedom to go kill again.  


What is wrong with you guys?

 No idea.  I stated that as a single human, not as a group of guys.
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Reply #31 - 05/21/25 at 13:38:04
 
zevenenergie wrote on 05/21/25 at 11:27:13:
The table has turned.
For a long time, criticizing Israel was anti-Semitism.
From now on, Israel will have to answer for genocidal and ethnic cleansing.


While Hamas and their proxies answer for nothing? …..
You’ve lost your footing on this zeven.
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Reply #32 - 05/21/25 at 14:21:30
 
Nope.
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Reply #33 - Yesterday at 04:52:56
 
I don’t think it’s always fair to assign a level of blame to media malpractice on a violent attack. For example, it was always a lie the Gabby Giffords shooting had anything to do with a Sarah Palin campaign ad.

But I do think the constant drumbeat of lies does push mentally unstable over the line. The guy who shot up the DC baseball game a few years ago for example.

Here’s another. The nonstop ridiculousness that Israel is to blame for the Palestinian plight and not terrorist groups and leaders of Arab nations funding and encouraging this false narrative. A public marketing campaign of lies can have consequences and here is one.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/two-israeli-diplomats-shot-killed-event-capital-je...

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Reply #34 - Yesterday at 07:44:43
 
zevenenergie wrote on 05/21/25 at 08:50:51:
For what Israel does in Gaza it will pay a very high price, It will have to kill and kill and kill Over and ove and over again. There will be no way back. Zionism has shown its true colors.


So, cold blood KILLING of 2 People, because of their heritage, is simply OK then.

OK Got it. A group of people, have got the UL, DFI, FDS, WOKE, totally (hood-winked). Making them believe that group, of TERRORIST HIDING people, are innocent.

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Reply #35 - Yesterday at 09:16:26
 
WebsterMark wrote on Yesterday at 04:52:56:
I don’t think it’s always fair to assign a level of blame to media malpractice on a violent attack. For example, it was always a lie the Gabby Giffords shooting had anything to do with a Sarah Palin campaign ad.

But I do think the constant drumbeat of lies does push mentally unstable over the line. The guy who shot up the DC baseball game a few years ago for example.

Here’s another. The nonstop ridiculousness that Israel is to blame for the Palestinian plight and not terrorist groups and leaders of Arab nations funding and encouraging this false narrative. A public marketing campaign of lies can have consequences and here is one.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/two-israeli-diplomats-shot-killed-event-capital-je...




Ok, at the same time, it's important to recognize that criticism of Israeli government policy is not automatically a ‘lie’ or anti-Semitic.

I believe Israel is fully aware of its actions. Early in the conflict, I saw a flood of Israeli propaganda content on social media, clearly intended to shape public opinion.

Israel has a serious image crisis in the Arab world, and understandably so. While Western societies interpret things through a legalistic or humanitarian lens, in many parts of the Middle East, people feel that core cultural and religious values have been violated for generations, starting with the Nakba in 1948.

Some Arab societies do, unfortunately, condition children to hate Jews, and that’s unacceptable. But hatred like that doesn’t come from nowhere, it often reflects decades of trauma, war, and oppression.

Antisemitism is a real and dangerous force. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a fake antisemitic text likely produced by the Russian secret police in the early 1900s, was used by Hitler and still fuels conspiracy theories today.

But it is not antisemitic to say that what is happening in Gaza may constitute genocide.

Multiple UN experts, including the UN Special Rapporteur on Human Rights in the Palestinian Territories, have warned that Israel’s actions “may amount to genocide.” Amnesty International and others have reported widespread violations of international humanitarian law. The International Court of Justice has taken the case seriously and ordered provisional measures based on a plausible risk of genocide.

The world cannot ignore this. The Genocide Convention was created after the Holocaust to prevent exactly this kind of catastrophe. Israel must be held to the same legal and moral standards as any other nation. That accountability must not be blocked by accusations of antisemitism, especially when the concern is about protecting all human life.
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Reply #36 - Yesterday at 09:18:58
 
MnSpring wrote on Yesterday at 07:44:43:
zevenenergie wrote on 05/21/25 at 08:50:51:
For what Israel does in Gaza it will pay a very high price, It will have to kill and kill and kill Over and ove and over again. There will be no way back. Zionism has shown its true colors.


So, cold blood KILLING of 2 People, because of their heritage, is simply OK then.It,s not ok...

OK Got it. A group of people, have got the UL, DFI, FDS, WOKE, totally (hood-winked). Making them believe that group, of TERRORIST HIDING people, are innocent.
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Reply #37 - Today at 06:04:29
 
zevenenergie wrote on Yesterday at 09:16:26:
WebsterMark wrote on Yesterday at 04:52:56:
I don’t think it’s always fair to assign a level of blame to media malpractice on a violent attack. For example, it was always a lie the Gabby Giffords shooting had anything to do with a Sarah Palin campaign ad.

But I do think the constant drumbeat of lies does push mentally unstable over the line. The guy who shot up the DC baseball game a few years ago for example.

Here’s another. The nonstop ridiculousness that Israel is to blame for the Palestinian plight and not terrorist groups and leaders of Arab nations funding and encouraging this false narrative. A public marketing campaign of lies can have consequences and here is one.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/two-israeli-diplomats-shot-killed-event-capital-je...




Ok, at the same time, it's important to recognize that criticism of Israeli government policy is not automatically a ‘lie’ or anti-Semitic. Agree

I believe Israel is fully aware of its actions. Early in the conflict, I saw a flood of Israeli propaganda content on social media, clearly intended to shape public opinion.every nation does that

Israel has a serious image crisis in the Arab world, you mean the Arab world that has expressed repeatedly, its desire to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth?and understandably so. While Western societies interpret things through a legalistic or humanitarian lens, in many parts of the Middle East, people feel that core cultural and religious values have been violated for generations, starting with the Nakba in 1948.

Some Arab societies do, unfortunately, condition children to hate Jews, and that’s unacceptable. But hatred like that doesn’t come from nowhere, it often reflects decades of trauma, war, and oppression. you just contradicted yourself.

Antisemitism is a real and dangerous force. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a fake antisemitic text likely produced by the Russian secret police in the early 1900s, was used by Hitler and still fuels conspiracy theories today.

But it is not antisemitic to say that what is happening in Gaza may constitute genocide.

Multiple UN experts, including the UN Special Rapporteur on Human Rights in the Palestinian Territories, have warned that Israel’s actions “may amount to genocide.” “may amount to” is a political term. Meaning it’s being used as a weapon to achieve a goal. It doesn’t mean it’s truthful.Amnesty International and others have reported widespread violations of international humanitarian law. The International Court of Justice has taken the case seriously and ordered provisional measures based on a plausible risk of genocide.

The world cannot ignore this. The Genocide Convention was created after the Holocaust to prevent exactly this kind of catastrophe. Israel must be held to the same legal and moral standards as any other nation. That accountability must not be blocked by accusations of antisemitism, especially when the concern is about protecting all human life.


this is the definition of genocide : Genocide is defined as the deliberate and systematic destruction of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group with the intent to destroy it, in whole or in part.


It’s factually observable and provable that’s not what’s happening. Israeli forces are repeatably putting themselves in danger by seeking out combatants only. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, this would’ve been over months and months ago. This is not genocide, it’s a military action against an enemy, who has repeatedly demonstrated their desire to kill every Jew in Israel.


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Reply #38 - Today at 08:38:24
 
It’s factually observable and provable that’s not what’s happening. Israeli forces are repeatably putting themselves in danger by seeking out combatants only. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, this would’ve been over months and months ago. This is not genocide, it’s a military action against an enemy, who has repeatedly demonstrated their desire to kill every Jew in Israel.

 I agree.  There's no way this would be an ongoing military action if the intent was genocide.  Hamas, especially the civilian population would have nowhere near the skills or opportunities to defend themselves against a committed action by Israel to eradicate their population.

 What is happening now is a textbook urban warfare employment of one faction seeking combatants.  People play the "genocide" card any time the side they like is losing.
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