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05/19/25 at 12:31:17
 
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Reply #1 - 05/19/25 at 13:13:25
 
WWII happened as well
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Reply #2 - 05/19/25 at 14:03:50
 
Take a seat...

But now you are for the perpetrators.
In fact, you are arming the perpetrators. Doesn't that make you just as guilty of genoside?
Being misinformed about history is no excuse.
because what is happening there now, is out of all proportion. Everyone can see it... you too!

Just like I could see that she should have said that the tattoos weren't real. remeber....


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Reply #3 - 05/19/25 at 17:35:10
 
zevenenergie wrote on 05/19/25 at 14:03:50:
Take a seat...

But now you are for the perpetrators. again, perpetrators implies without cause. That’s not true.
In fact, you are arming the perpetrators. Doesn't that make you just as guilty of genoside? there is no genocide. If it was genocide, it would be over by now.
Being misinformed about history is no excuse.
because what is happening there now, is out of all proportion. Tell me what’s proportional for killing over 1000 innocent Jews, and some of them in the most horrific ways possible. And mass rapes,  and Decapitating children List very specifically what you would consider proportional for Oct 7. Everyone can see it... you too!

Just like I could see that she should have said that the tattoos weren't real. remeber....


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Reply #4 - 05/20/25 at 02:42:55
 
What you would consider proportional for Oct 7?

I don't know,

Israel would do well to publicly acknowledge that it is historically wrong. And they would do well to take care of the population now. Food, hospitals, humanitarian aid. Make plans for the reconstruction of Gaza. Ask foreign countries to install a peace army. And then apologize a thousand times for the structural oppression since 1950. In words and deeds over and over again.

Only that would heal their collective trauma from the Second World War.
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Reply #5 - 05/20/25 at 03:02:03
 
Well those things are never going to happen because they have no basis in reality as I explained before. If that’s the position of the Islamic nations surrounding the area who refuse to allow refugees into their nations and to assimilate them onto their populations, then Israel will finish what it started. Wipe out every Hamas fighter, clear Gaza of any weapon or person with even a hint of a desire to kill Jews, take it over, rebuild it and manage the population.

They picked a fight with a bear. They came into his cave because they were told it’s theirs but it’s not. I suggest they go elsewhere and set up a new camp and stop being pawns for countries who are just using them. And it would helpful if people like you would stop with the nonsense that Israel stole their historical homeland, that all they want to do is kill Palestinians. All this is doing is getting innocents killed.

I asked you before this question.

If Israel laid down all their arms, what would happen?

If Hamas laid down all their arms, what would happen?

Israel would be immediately attacked and destroyed.

Not so with Hamas. That’s the difference. That’s why you’re on the wrong side in this.
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Reply #6 - 05/20/25 at 04:13:45
 
Just because I can't come up with a solution to the Middle East conflict, or because you ask difficult questions doesn't mean I'm wrong.

I have been saying for many years that the nature of these kinds of problems in the world are not political, economic or military. And that they cannot be solved in this way.
It is a spiritual problem. Or better said, a lack of spirituality.

Look at the rise of China that arose when they started working together with the West. Now that they are going too far, to conquering the world, see how long they can keep that up. Good luck with that.
America frees Europe from the Germans and prosperity explodes.
Then America wants to rule the world and it is on the brink of an economic crisis because of its national debt.
The Germans show remorse and make amends, and their economy grows to great heights.
What fate awaits the West now that it throws all democratic values ​​overboard, Who wants to work with that?
Israel is digging its grave at the moment.
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Reply #7 - 05/20/25 at 09:46:00
 
The US is not throwing its Democratic values overboard, quite the contrary.

And Israel is digging out of its potential grave. Trying to establish peaceful relations with the Palestinians has gotten them nowhere. Palestinians don’t appear to want peace, they want to put Israel in a grave. You can’t live with people like that.
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Reply #8 - 05/20/25 at 12:44:16
 
So you admit that genocide is being committed instead of a war?


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Reply #9 - 05/20/25 at 13:33:42
 
zevenenergie wrote on 05/20/25 at 12:44:16:


Wonder what happened to those people that disrupted ?

Did they go to jail, were they fined, did the FBI go nuts and send them  to prison ?

Interesting that a opinion/protest by conservatives,
is totally different
then the SAME THING
done by UL, DFI, FDS, Socialists.



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Reply #10 - Today at 06:25:39
 
I don't know how old any of you are, but Israel is only there because they TOOK Palestine, all except Gaza. Their "Justification" was the "Bible". 6000 years ago, the Jews wandered in the wilderness. In the 1950s, they decided their wandering ended in what was Palestine, so they took it, with help from the USA.  THEN they pushed the UN into freezing territorial boundaries. If you start with the idea that ALL of Israel was taken from the Palestinians, it's easier to understand the conflict. Palestine used to have Christians, Jews, and Muslims that all lived together. There are not many Jews or Christians there these days. The Muslims justify the conflict with just wanting their country back.  It's Northern Ireland all over again, on steroids. If the rest of the world, including Islam AND the US just left the whole thing alone, except for war crimes, they would have to negotiate a settlement, though, ironically, Israel would likely be like Germany in the 1930s, and dictate all the terms.

I got no dog in this fight.
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Reply #11 - Today at 12:09:09
 
 The current structure of the US Government is based off the same principle.  Those humans alive at the time TOOK the land, culture and resources of the "Native American" tribes.

 The primary difference is this took place at a time when nothing else could be done about it by foreign entities.  Secondary the religious component is completely different, versus being different interpretations of the same thing.  

 The  stability of the US Government is owed to their ability to fundamentally incapacitate the ability of the Native American to fight back.  If we remove ethics, this is called an effective long-term resolution.  

 The situation with Israel is unfortunate however the simple fact is until they can eradicate the primary source of effective resistance, the planet will have to deal with it.  The same thing technically applies to Hamas, however they are not in any calculated position to succeed until they or their allies can reliably manufacture and hide high-efficiency biological or nuclear weapons.
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