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Reply #15 - Today at 10:24:08
 
LANCER wrote on Today at 09:34:50:
So what is the origin of man ?
And what is his (our) purpose ?



Tanks for asking  Smiley

The origin of humanity is a mystery,
and being, simply existing in the present, is the starting point to approach it.

From that state of being,
the right action arises naturally,
without force or calculation.
This makes us truly responsible,
because we act from clarity, not conditioning.

So the real aim is to arrive at a point
where we can say: “Thy will be done”,
not as submission, but as alignment with what is.
And that's the same as being
fully yourself, all the time.
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Reply #16 - Today at 10:43:12
 
[quote author=342B382B202B202B3C29272B4E0 link=1747683078/0#13 date=1748187455]The whole world has been in turmoil before there were Muslims and
before Christ
before there was a Roman empire.

From the moment man ate the apple, the symbol of knowledge of duality, of good and evil, he lost his unity with Being. He began to identify with thoughts, judgments, fears and desires. Paradise was not left physically, but inwardly. Man became lost in thought, cut off from the center of his consciousness, from the silent, living Now.

The serpent, the voice of the ego, still whispers: “You are not enough… you must know more, have more, become more.” And so man strays further from his origin.

the fable of creationism and the promise of paradise is an attempt to exert control over men
we evolved period
hopefully still evolving into something better than what we have been



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Reply #17 - Today at 11:25:35
 
zevenenergie wrote on Today at 08:37:35:
"... From the moment man ate the apple, ..."

Then you said:
zevenenergie wrote on Today at 10:24:08:
"... The origin of humanity is a mystery ..."


  Which is it ?

And how does that make the Jews Bad people, for defending themselves ?

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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[quote author=5448554D504552434C4F4E45200 link=1747683078/15#16 date=1748194992]zevenenergie wrote on Today at 08:37:35:
The whole world has been in turmoil before there were Muslims and
before Christ
before there was a Roman empire.

From the moment man ate the apple, the symbol of knowledge of duality, of good and evil, he lost his unity with Being. He began to identify with thoughts, judgments, fears and desires. Paradise was not left physically, but inwardly. Man became lost in thought, cut off from the center of his consciousness, from the silent, living Now.

The serpent, the voice of the ego, still whispers: “You are not enough… you must know more, have more, become more.” And so man strays further from his origin.

the fable of creationism and the promise of paradise is an attempt to exert control over men
we evolved period
hopefully still evolving into something better than what we have been





If you are talking about a religion, yes, because that is actually a control system. But Jesus did not start Christianity him self.

It has never been a promise but a law;
Whoever is really interested in consciousness coincides with it.

When you are in the hustle and bustle of everyday life, you completely coincide with thinking. But when you are through nature or a bit on your motorcycle through the mountains and you are struck by the beauty of the surroundings. Then you dissolve in, love, joy, god, consiusnes, Allah.

That is the bad thing about all religions, they have placed it outside of you. That you have to achieve it, but you already are, Its just Veiled by thinking.
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That is the bad thing about all religions, they have placed it outside of you

 And all this time I was thinking it was the justification for killing other humans.
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And how does that make the Jews Bad people, for defending themselves ?


You say they are bad for defending themselves. Not me.

But I think you have to look very carefully whether killing children, destroying homes and infrastructure and starving the population stil has self-defense as its goal.

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Eegore wrote on Today at 11:36:22:
That is the bad thing about all religions, they have placed it outside of you

 And all this time I was thinking it was the justification for killing other humans.


Take responsebility.... Eegore  That's what you, do when you justify genoside. Step out of your Christian and cultural conditioning and look at it cleanly as a child, and you find your self in shock.

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Take responsebility.... Eegore  That's what you, do when you justify genoside. Step out of your Christian and cultural conditioning and look at it cleanly as a child, and you find your self in shock.


 I didn't know I was Christian.  I justify Genocide typically by economics.  
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