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Reply #15 - 05/31/25 at 16:26:45
 
Saving that one child for the rest of her life, would cost less than a single helicopter. The US military has plenty of helicopters. one less wouldn't matter.

 Lets for the sake of the discussion say this is an exact 1 for 1 cost exchange.  First, appropriated fund law would eliminate this possibility.

 Second, let's say we remove the legal restrictions, how many helicopters should be removed from funding?  What does the US Government do with the other non-US citizen human children dying this month?

 It makes sense to save this girl, especially when the logic is someone else will cover the cost, however this will create a position, (especially if the standard is "always") of creating an unsustainable care situation.
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Reply #16 - Yesterday at 06:03:11
 
Eegore wrote on 05/30/25 at 11:34:36:
 A human child born in Mexico to humans from Mexico was brought to the US and legally received endorsement and allowed to utilize the legal (at the time) Humanitarian Parole.  This allowed permitted non-US Citizen humans to stay in the US and receive medical care.  The human child is 4 years of age.

 The human child requires a worn medical device that keeps her alive.  Without it she would die within 5 days.  This device is unavailable in Mexico.

 The recent revocations of legal status in the US due to Humanitarian Parole means the human child and associated non-US Citizen family members can be deported.

 The outcomes in this scenario, for this post, in this thread with the exemption of all other threads are as follows:

1: Human child receives no-cost medical care until age 18 and lives.  Cost of care after 18 is undetermined.
2: Human child is deported and dies once the device fails in 10 days.

 Should the human child and and associated non-US Citizen family members be deported?

 For reference:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/lawyer-says-trump-administration-revokes-224914718...


The answer is no, the child should not, but while acknowledging the slippery slope bureaucrats create and the likelihood the precedent will be exploited.

First off, the Biden administration‘s four year policy to bring in potential new voters has created this situation. And honestly, Trump’s failure to do what he said he was going to do his first term is to blame also. And we can go back even further and the idea of allowing mass immigration to fill cheap labor jobs was a mistake from the very beginning. Every administration going back decades is responsible for that. Just look at the recent interest in population decline from indigenous citizens. It’s a serious and long-term issue when your population remain stable mostly because of poor immigrants escaping poverty and who will fill every low wage job they can get their hands on.

But why is this device unavailable in Mexico? I just said I came back from a vacation in the theme parks in Orlando where Spanish was probably spoken by 40% of the participants. It is not cheap to go to these places or stay in the resorts. Clearly there is money in Mexico, so why aren’t these available there?

The US, as was once said, is the shining light on the hill, but unless that light is maintained, it cannot cast light to the less fortunate in our neighboring countries who’ve never enjoyed the freedom and prosperity the Republic brings us. Why we would want to lower ourselves instead of raising others is beyond me.

We can all reap the benefits that hard working, responsible, civilized immigrants bring to the United States, a nation they wish to call their own, while at the same time acknowledging recent policies have flooded us with those we, as a nation, gain no benefit from.

Ann Coulter used to say about the middle eastern violent Muslin nations that we should invade them, kill their leaders, convert the population to Christianity and the world would be better off. While obviously true, it should never be done, but in the same spirit, why do we allow such corrupt governments to flourish so near to us?
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Reply #17 - Yesterday at 07:13:19
 
“… why do we allow such corrupt governments to flourish so near to us? …”

For the same reason that the Ultra Liberal, full Blown Socialists, are allowed to do what they want by a far left government, (Biden, Obama, Clinton), who only want to stuff their OWN pockets.
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Reply #18 - Yesterday at 09:25:10
 

The answer is no, the child should not, but while acknowledging the slippery slope bureaucrats create and the likelihood the precedent will be exploited.

 I would agree.  The issue is less about the one human child, but about the thousands more coming for that outcome.  If the US started providing free lifetime healthcare to all terminally ill children on the planet, what outcome should we expect?

 So if we are to provide this child lifetime care, do we deny the next child?  

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Reply #19 - Yesterday at 09:36:32
 
If someone is here legally and taking advantage of the gifts and generous nature of the US citizens, then yes.

But going forward we do what Trump is trying to do and what we should do which is restrict immigration to those who benefit the country. That’s step one, step two is to assist honest politicians in other countries who are trying to get rid of the corruption and allow greater freedom to their citizens.
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Reply #20 - Yesterday at 16:27:10
 

But going forward we do what Trump is trying to do and what we should do which is restrict immigration to those who benefit the country. That’s step one, step two is to assist honest politicians in other countries who are trying to get rid of the corruption and allow greater freedom to their citizens.

 I'm not sure honest politicians exist.  The administrative route I do agree with though.  So in regard to "restrict immigration to those who benefit the country" I would include minors that would die.

 Restriction to entry appears to be a key feature in sustainability.
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