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Reply #15 - 08/18/25 at 06:15:22
 
Why aren't you just as pissed off about born-in-the-US drivers that do the same thing? The US, BTW, is one of the few countries where "I didn't SEE the other vehicle" can get you off? Ask any motorcyclist that's been in or witnessed a crash. That's the universal answer. Oddly, in other countries, licensed drivers are REQUIRED to see other vehicles. Stating you didn't see another vehicle will get your license permanently pulled.

You're just mad because a brown person is involved.

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Reply #16 - 08/18/25 at 08:42:26
 

Oddly, in other countries, licensed drivers are REQUIRED to see other vehicles. Stating you didn't see another vehicle will get your license permanently pulled.

 Show proof or its a lie.  I have employees all over the planet, I've yet to see a country where an accident where you do not see another vehicle is a mandatory permanent revocation.  Literally everywhere I have seen bases the points or revocation times on severity of the accident.
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Reply #17 - 08/18/25 at 08:54:48
 
Needles wrote on 08/18/25 at 06:15:22:
Why aren't you just as pissed off about born-in-the-US drivers that do the same thing? The US, BTW, is one of the few countries where "I didn't SEE the other vehicle" can get you off? Ask any motorcyclist that's been in or witnessed a crash. That's the universal answer. Oddly, in other countries, licensed drivers are REQUIRED to see other vehicles. Stating you didn't see another vehicle will get your license permanently pulled.

You're just mad because a brown person is involved.

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It’s amazing that liberal Democrats like you will sacrifice lives repeatedly supported stupid arguments just to make a point and show how badly you hate Donald Trump. You people are fxxked up.

Stating you didn’t see another vehicle will get your license permanently pulled in other countries? That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Seriously, the dumbest thing ever. You can’t be that stupid. I think you just make this stuff up just to be on the opposing side.
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Reply #18 - 08/18/25 at 09:11:21
 
Stating you didn’t see another vehicle will get your license permanently pulled in other countries? That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Seriously, the dumbest thing ever. You can’t be that stupid. I think you just make this stuff up just to be on the opposing side.

 Maybe he is in scenarios where people just don't address him when they know he is lying.  I once had a coworker like that, where people waited for him to walk away to say he is full of sh!t, so he became more delusional thinking he was fooling everyone.  Once we started addressing his lies in real time he filed a harassment claim, which was denied - because he lied- then requested a transfer instead of being fired for lying.

 I do more PM messages on here than public posts, and a decent number of them are members acknowledging how duplicitous Needles is, thus diminishing the value of his arguments.  He has good points in certain posts, but the consistent lying ruins all that, even by members that really hate Trump.

 
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Reply #19 - 08/18/25 at 09:28:52
 
So, you're not only a 1%er, you're in a group of circle jerk sycophants.  That's as good a description of the right wing bubble as I've ever heard. And, to keep paraphrasing Einstein, "Why a 'decent number' of them? If you were right, one would be enough."  As long as you had legitimate proof. And, proof is not attempting to link nonexistent precedence to the intent of 240 year old laws that you insist on not allowing to evolve to contemporary interpretation.  You're just another would-be robber baron who wants to keep raking in money from the exploitation of your employees. OF COURSE you're going to disagree. Greed makes you blind to the destruction 47 has brought to the US, mainly because you've been exploiting the workers for so long YOU think it's the natural order of things. You'll go down along with the rest...


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Reply #20 - 08/18/25 at 09:45:31
 
And, to keep paraphrasing Einstein, "Why a 'decent number' of them? If you were right, one would be enough."

 Because it is more than one.  Multiple people think you lie consistently.  




As long as you had legitimate proof. And, proof is not attempting to link nonexistent precedence to the intent of 240 year old laws that you insist on not allowing to evolve to contemporary interpretation.

 I'm pro-amendment on the treason laws - that is literally pro-evolve to contemporary interpretation.   I am not pro-make up procedures that do not exist and say they do.  You literally claim there are procedures that do not exist.  You want ad-hoc make up new things because Trump system - and that's not how the US Constitution works.  


You're just another would-be robber baron who wants to keep raking in money from the exploitation of your employees. OF COURSE you're going to disagree. Greed makes you blind to the destruction 47 has brought to the US, mainly because you've been exploiting the workers for so long YOU think it's the natural order of things. You'll go down along with the rest...

 Show proof or its a lie.  When there is economic downturn I believe the management should be the first to take that cut.  When a contract loses money, I still pay my employees and take the loss myself.  What a robber baron I am.  So because I am a robber baron, I disagree that other countries permanently revoke driving privileges due to not seeing the vehicle they collided with?  

 

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Reply #21 - 08/18/25 at 09:59:05
 
I don't have to prove it. YOU admitted it.

"I have employees all over the planet."

And, BTW, you can b*tch all you want about drivers licenses, but, apparently, they aren't even required.

https://wearechange.org/u-s-supreme-court-says-no-license-necessary-to-drive-aut
omobile-on-public-highwaysstreets/
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Reply #22 - 08/18/25 at 10:38:20
 
I don't have to prove it. YOU admitted it.

"I have employees all over the planet."


 What does that admit?  Having employees outside the continental US means what to you?  Going to tell me what I do for a living with zero evidence?  No surprise there.


And, BTW, you can b*tch all you want about drivers licenses, but, apparently, they aren't even required.

 So to prove driver licenses are permanently revoked in other countries you provide a US Supreme Court ruling.  Nice try.  

 Also you are wrong.  JOG already tried this argument multiple times using Thompson v Smith.  Selecting one paragraph, that's edited, and not using the entirety of the SCOTUS decision is amateur at best.  All the SCOTUS did was rule that licenses can not be arbitrarily revoked.  

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3467100988685921366

The right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon in the ordinary course of life and business is a common right which he has under his right to enjoy life and liberty, to acquire and possess property, and to pursue happiness and safety. It includes the right in so doing to use the ordinary and usual conveyances of the day; and under the existing modes of travel includes the right to drive a horse-drawn carriage or wagon thereon, or to operate an automobile thereon, for the usual and ordinary purposes of life and business. It is not a mere privilege, like the privilege of moving a house in the street, operating a business stand in the street, or transporting persons or property for hire along the street, which a city may permit or prohibit at will.

The exercise of such a common right the city may, under its police power, regulate in the interest of the public safety and welfare; but it may not arbitrarily or unreasonably prohibit or restrict it, nor may it permit one to exercise it and refuse to permit another of like qualifications, under like conditions and circumstances, to exercise it.

The regulation of the exercise of the right to drive a private automobile on the streets of the city may be accomplished in part by the city by granting, refusing, and revoking, under rules of general application, permits to drive an automobile on its streets; but such permits may not be arbitrarily refused or revoked, or permitted to be held by some and refused to other of like qualifications, under like circumstances and conditions.

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Reply #23 - 08/18/25 at 13:33:56
 
That is an admission that YOU are a 1%er. YOU have no credibility here.


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Reply #24 - 08/18/25 at 14:10:25
 
The Milligan case in 1866 says martial law cannot be enacted unless there has been an actual takeover of the courts and other government services, BTW. EGG, you ought to be ok with that, since it stopped Lincoln from trying and executing Confederate officers after the war.


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Reply #25 - 08/18/25 at 15:19:44
 
That is an admission that YOU are a 1%er. YOU have no credibility here.

 So having foreign employees, or US employees that can travel makes me a 1%?  My neighbor employs 2 ladies in Taiwan, 1 in Australia, and 3 in Mexico, would she have any credibility here?  Or is she a 1% too?  



The Milligan case in 1866 says martial law cannot be enacted unless there has been an actual takeover of the courts and other government services, BTW. EGG, you ought to be ok with that, since it stopped Lincoln from trying and executing Confederate officers after the war.

 Yeah I'm fine with it.  There doesn't have to be a takeover, just "effectually closes" courts and services.  

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Reply #26 - 08/19/25 at 03:49:32
 
Back on topic…. Let’s ask this woman who just buried her mom about illegals…. It’s every day.

https://nypost.com/2025/08/13/us-news/ex-wnba-star-sophie-brunners-mom-killed-in
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Reply #27 - 08/19/25 at 05:07:06
 
Ask ANY mom who had to bury a son murdered by legals. They'll have much the same reaction. Ask any mom who has lost a son in a US military action. Same. Death due to auto accident? Same. Better yet, ask a mom who lost a daughter to a flood in Texas... Same, with lots of anger.

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Reply #28 - 08/19/25 at 05:46:35
 

Ask ANY mom who had to bury a son murdered by legals. They'll have much the same reaction. Ask any mom who has lost a son in a US military action. Same. Death due to auto accident? Same. Better yet, ask a mom who lost a daughter to a flood in Texas... Same, with lots of anger.


 I think the issue is that it is considered "more preventable" of a death if illegal immigrants were not allowed in large numbers.  The math is debatable but you are correct, any family member will ask why something more was not done ahead of time.
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Reply #29 - 08/19/25 at 07:18:48
 
Needles wrote on 08/19/25 at 05:07:06:
Ask ANY mom who had to bury a son murdered by legals. They'll have much the same reaction. Ask any mom who has lost a son in a US military action. Same. Death due to auto accident? Same. Better yet, ask a mom who lost a daughter to a flood in Texas... Same, with lots of anger.

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Again, this is the puzzling thing about liberals. They will sacrifice peoples lives, including their children, to demonstrate that they are members of the “I hate Donald Trump more than anything in the world” club.

The fact citizens commit crimes is not an argument in favor of weak borders. It makes no sense.
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