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Reply #15 - 08/19/25 at 04:53:03
 
"BREAKING: Donald Trump's failed summit with Vladimir Putin backfires in horrifying fashion as Russian forces are spotted riding into battle in Ukraine with American flags flying from their vehicles.
And it gets so much worse....
Russian state media broadcast footage of Russian troops racing into battle inside a captured American M113 Armored Personnel Carrier with the U.S. flag flapping beside the Russian flag. RT, the outlet that aired the humiliating footage, described the vehicle as a "trophy." The footage was captured near Mala Tokmachka in the Zaporizhzhia region in Southeast Ukraine.
The timing of the footage release sends a clear message: Russia views the Alaskan summit as a massive propaganda victory. They are simultaneously trolling a humiliated Trump and using the PR victory to demoralize Ukrainian forces. The implication is that Russia "owns" the United States now and we might as well be an ally in their war against Ukraine.
"How should this be understood? Russian propagandists are showing a video where Russian equipment goes on the attack with flags of Russia and the USA,” said Andriy Yermak, Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine.
"In fact, Russians are using United States symbols in their own terrorist, aggressive war with the killing of civilian people. Maximum audacity,” he added.
"The Russians have already declared the United States an ally and are storming Mala Tokmachka in M113 armoured personnel carriers... with Russian and American flags,” said Petr Andryushchenko, head of Ukraine’s Centre for the Study of the Occupation.
“This is the logical conclusion to all of Trump’s absurdity. And all of this is on the official propaganda channel of Russia Today. There are no words," he added.
"The Russians put American flags on their armoured vehicles next to the tricolour and are driving around the occupied Ukrainian land," stated one Ukrainian outlet according to The Daily Mail. "This is all you need to know about the result of the negotiations in Alaska."
The stunning broadcast was released just hours before Trump was slated to meet with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the White House. Since the summit on Friday — during which Trump predictably failed to obtain a ceasefire agreement from Putin — Trump has been pushing Russian propaganda points and arguing that Zelensky has the responsibility to end the war by accepting unfavorable terms.
This outcome is exactly what many experts predicted. Putin a former KGB officer schooled in geopolitical maneuvering and fascist statecraft. Trump is a former reality TV star in the midst of a worsening pedophilia scandal. Putin just wanted a PR win on the world stage and Trump just wanted a distraction from Jeffrey Epstein coverage. In the end, both men got what they wanted and the world is worse off for it."

Oh, yeah, he's trying to stop the war...


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Reply #16 - 08/19/25 at 05:55:23
 
Russian state media broadcast footage of Russian troops racing into battle inside a captured American M113 Armored Personnel Carrier with the U.S. flag flapping beside the Russian flag. RT, the outlet that aired the humiliating footage, described the vehicle as a "trophy." The footage was captured near Mala Tokmachka in the Zaporizhzhia region in Southeast Ukraine.
The timing of the footage release sends a clear message: Russia views the Alaskan summit as a massive propaganda victory.


 Except the video was posted Before the Alaska meeting.  I guess we should ignore that and pretend time and space do not apply?  The result of an event happened before the event.  

 Why not use facts instead of lies to show how unsuccessful Trump negotiations are?  
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Reply #17 - 08/19/25 at 06:28:49
 
Egg, what difference does it make WHEN the footage was taken? The message is THAT it exists. Don't try to distract from the 47/Putin buddy system. That's demeaning, even for a MAGAT.


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Reply #18 - 08/19/25 at 07:13:14
 
Egg, what difference does it make WHEN the footage was taken? The message is THAT it exists. Don't try to distract from the 47/Putin buddy system. That's demeaning, even for a MAGAT.

 The claim is the footage is a result of the Trump/Putin meeting.  You don't see an issue with using footage before that meeting to say it happened because of that meeting?  Notice how Serowbot, doing the exact same thing you did, actually can acknowledge the discrepancy and then use true things to get his point across.  You divert with some expectation we ignore your reference is lying.  You sound exactly like the Conservative Covid complainers on here that post any nonsense they find then expect us to ignore that its not true.

  Why not use truth to show how ineffective Trump is instead of lies?  Don't try to distract from the truth, Trump can be an idiot without using lies to show it.  That's demeaning, even for a delusional lying forum member.

 An adult conversation would acknowledge the lie, and instead focus on why the M113 did that.  My assessment, given this has happened before with the same model and a Bradley is that using US flags on US built tanks seems like a decent way to appear like a US vehicle on the battle field.  Publishing it on State TV is commentary on US political effectiveness.  
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Reply #19 - 08/19/25 at 09:24:59
 
Splitting hairs on a moot point, but you do that well, don't you, Egg?


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Reply #20 - 08/19/25 at 09:28:48
 
Serowbot wrote on 08/17/25 at 11:09:47:
No agreement, no ceasefire, nuttin'
Plus Trump taco's for the fourth time on Russian sanctions
Let's push those sanctions down the road while people die daily in Ukraine

Putin now wants all of the Ukraine
Is this "The Art of The Deal"?

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Reply #21 - 08/19/25 at 11:16:45
 
Splitting hairs on a moot point, but you do that well, don't you, Egg?

 You want other people to use accurate information "with references", just follow Your own standards.  Trump can be an idiot and we can be accurate.

 Serowbot had the exact same presentation and isn't still crying about it.  He accurately observed the information he provided lacked the continuity to be factual as presented and moved on.  His point is still valid, he just isn't so personally invested in Trump that he has to double down on the bullsh!t and resort to personal insults etc.

  Your reference lied to you.  Use a better one.  Present accurate information instead of trying some childish name calling responses like that means anything to anyone here.
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Reply #22 - 08/19/25 at 13:36:32
 
I just did the same thing with my post on Putin wanting to take all Ukraine (it predated the Alaska meeting)

Which is even worse when you think about it
Reports are that Russin news (if you can call it that) is making fun of Trump and Melania almost daily

Remember when Trump we're a laughing stock to the world?
Well now we are  Huh
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Reply #23 - 08/19/25 at 14:04:47
 
EGG, I simply posted the ENTIRE statement, without editorializing (Look it up.), unlike the cherry picked nonsense you've posted about "precedent" for a felon and traitor in the WH. I'm pretty sure 47 is the first, therefore there is no precedent. (No President, either!)

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Reply #24 - 08/19/25 at 16:17:05
 

EGG, I simply posted the ENTIRE statement, without editorializing (Look it up.)

 That does not change the accuracy.  Your hyper-reactive mentality that for some reason tells you that anyone that does not agree with every part of your posts must be a Trump supporter, prohibits you from acknowledging the accuracy of reference material and instead leads you making poor attempts at insulting the person pointing out the inaccuracy.

 This is nothing new, vaccine complainers did this for years on here.  If I accurately indicated the CDC did not say what they claimed, I suddenly think everything the US Government ever said is gospel.  Attacking the person pointing out the discrepancy is easier than admitting the reference is incorrect.


unlike the cherry picked nonsense you've posted about "precedent" for a felon and traitor in the WH. I'm pretty sure 47 is the first, therefore there is no precedent.

 I never said there has to be precedent, you made that up.  I referenced actual US law - you refenced a made-up social media post that fabricated a law that doesn't exist.  You then made up a process for treason arbitration in your own head that doesn't even exist.  

 Instead of admitting there is no separate "Federal Court" that decides POTUS treason charges, you try to attack my references, which are literally the exact same source you have used, and the US DOJ websites by falsely claiming they are "fake MAGA" websites like people are too stupid to know the difference.  The audacity to say that and think members can't use their own eyes to know those references are not private websites is delusional.

 Fake MAGA website!!!:

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part1/chapter115&edi...
 

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Reply #25 - 08/19/25 at 16:19:30
 

I just did the same thing with my post on Putin wanting to take all Ukraine (it predated the Alaska meeting)

Which is even worse when you think about it
Reports are that Russin news (if you can call it that) is making fun of Trump and Melania almost daily

Remember when Trump we're a laughing stock to the world?
Well now we are


 They certainly do broadcast the POTUS and supporting staff in a negative light, but then again they say the Ukraine is full of Nazis.  

 Weird you aren't trying to insult me for noticing the dates on your reference material.
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Reply #26 - 08/20/25 at 13:29:36
 
ALL US Government websites are fake news under the current administration, or did you sleep through the past 7-8 months?


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Reply #27 - 08/20/25 at 13:36:49
 
ALL US Government websites are fake news under the current administration, or did you sleep through the past 7-8 months?


 The referenced information I have used has had no changes in the past 20 years.  

 You used a government website as a reference so maybe you should stop using fake news:

https://espaillat.house.gov/media/press-releases/reps-espaillat-goldman-intro...

 

 Using your logic, if the following is on a Government website:

 The Bill of Rights, comprising the first ten amendments to the U.S. Constitution, was ratified on December 15, 1791 = True if Biden is POTUS.

 The Bill of Rights, comprising the first ten amendments to the U.S. Constitution, was ratified on December 15, 1791 =  Fake if Trump is POTUS.

 Why does your reality revolve around Trump and not actual reality?
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Reply #28 - 08/20/25 at 13:47:27
 
"Depends on how you interpret the data."  Wink



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Reply #29 - 08/20/25 at 13:50:15
 

Depends on how you interpret the data.


 Agreed.  You typically interpret it wrong.  

 For instance I interpret that an event that happens before a meeting does not happen "BECAUSE" of that meeting.  You insist an event that happened before a meeting was "BECAUSE" of that meeting.
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