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Art of the Deal
08/17/25 at 11:09:47
 
No agreement, no ceasefire, nuttin'
Plus Trump taco's for the fourth time on Russian sanctions
Let's push those sanctions down the road while people die daily in Ukraine

Putin now wants all of the Ukraine
Is this "The Art of The Deal"?

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Reply #1 - 08/17/25 at 11:19:33
 
Serowbot wrote on 08/17/25 at 11:09:47:
"... Putin now wants all of the Ukraine ..."


WOW !!!!!

You got into that summit, and were able to hear and understand every word said !

Just WOW


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Reply #2 - 08/17/25 at 12:10:08
 
Putin now wants all of the Ukraine
Is this "The Art of The Deal"?


 Do you have a reference for this?

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/outline-emerges-putins-offer-end-his-war-...
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Reply #3 - 08/17/25 at 12:59:54
 
Putin confirms he wants all of Ukraine, as Europe steps up military aid
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2025/6/27/putin-confirms-he-wants-all-of-u...

Ukraine’s European allies pledged increased levels of military aid to Ukraine this year, making up for a United States aid freeze, as Russian President Vladimir Putin reaffirmed his ambition to absorb all of Ukraine into the Russian Federation.


I find Aljazeera to be a fairly reliable source
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Reply #4 - 08/17/25 at 15:04:24
 

I find Aljazeera to be a fairly reliable source

 Ok but why use information pre-Trump meeting as evidence of a Trump meeting outcome?  I know time and space as we know it doesn't apply to this forum, but even for you?
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Reply #5 - 08/17/25 at 15:47:24
 
I didn't realize the link was pre meeting, it just popped up when I Googled, but I was under the impression negotiations were about the Donbas and Crimea territories
To want the whole of Ukraine leaves no wiggle room on the negotiations

Why should Zelensky agree to anything if the option is nothing?

Trump needs to drop the TACO and make some impactful changes or this goes nowhere
What does Putin have over him?
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Reply #6 - 08/17/25 at 16:36:49
 

Why should Zelensky agree to anything if the option is nothing?

 He shouldn't.  That is most likely why the proposal is the eastern slope.


Trump needs to drop the TACO and make some impactful changes or this goes nowhere
What does Putin have over him?


 No idea but I'd rather do this than shovel money at a problem that will never end unless Ukraine is defeated.
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Reply #7 - 08/18/25 at 05:12:53
 
What does Putin have on him? WTF is wrong with you?

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Reply #8 - 08/18/25 at 05:19:35
 
I’ve said from the beginning we should have never gotten this involved, this is Europe’s problem. Trump is the only one trying to stop it.

Putin is a serious problem but either we decide to take him head on or we don’t and I don’t think we should over Ukraine.

We should have sold weapons to Ukraine and let them and Europe fight it out. If after Ukraine, Putin moves against a NATO country, we get involved then, after they are weakened from fighting Ukraine. Instead we gave them billions in a war they could never win, only drag out.
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Reply #9 - 08/18/25 at 05:38:49
 
The US agreed to back Ukraine against Russia so they would give up their nuclear bombs. They did. Now, under 47, the US is a 2 faced, lying, POS, and the world knows it. And MAGATs are fine with that...


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Reply #10 - 08/18/25 at 07:09:57
 
Needles wrote on 08/18/25 at 05:38:49:
"... The US agreed to back Ukraine ... ... ... ... "


Because,
Burisma paid Joe Biden through Hunter (+/-) $5 million each.

Then Zelenskyy told Joe,
'You Give Me Money and I will Not tell the world how CROOKED you are'
  (Or Something to the like)

So Joe gave
170 BILLION
 of YOUR MONEY,

  to save his ass.


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Reply #11 - 08/18/25 at 14:05:43
 
That's what YOU, a MAGAT, which automatically means you're not to be believed, say.

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Reply #12 - 08/18/25 at 16:06:49
 
Needles wrote on 08/18/25 at 14:05:43:
That's what YOU, a MAGAT, which automatically means you're not to be believed, say.


OK, Zippy - 2

Aren't you so Glad,
That you live in a FREE NATION !


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Reply #13 - 08/19/25 at 03:56:07
 
How about we just wait for a couple days and see what happens with these meetings.

Ukraine can never win this. They can only drag it out. They’re a horrible situation, and I applaud them for doing everything I can to save your country.

But we either fight Russia head on or we let Europe handle this which they’ve not done. Again, as far as I can see, Trump is the only one looking for peace first.
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Reply #14 - 08/19/25 at 04:27:27
 
Again, as far as I can see, Trump is the only one looking for peace first. [/quote]


he's looking for a Nobel Peace Prize
he's envious of Obama
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