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Reply #30 - Yesterday at 13:50:10
 
Even though people are allowed to carry permitted concealed handguns on church property, even if a church building is owned separately from a school, if it is used by the school—say, for classes or assemblies—during school hours and is under the control of the school, it legally becomes school property for that duration. That means the usual school carry prohibitions apply.

 So according to Minn. Stat. § 609.66, subd. 1d: The prohibition against carrying a firearm on school property does not apply to: "a person with the written permission of the principal (or director of a child care center)."  

 So the school can authorize staff to carry a weapon on school property.

https://www.house.mn.gov/hrd/pubs/ss/ssschfire.pdf


It's DaLaw that You gotsta be Vulnerable. And vulnerable they wuz. Sounds like a Really Good Idea..

 I disagree.  The law clearly indicates authorization can be given to carry.  So they don't gotsta be Vulnerable.  They chose to be more vulnerable.
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Reply #31 - Yesterday at 14:30:38
 


   Yet they refuse,
despite the absolute proof,
Less Guns = MORE CRIME

not in the rest of the world
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Reply #32 - Yesterday at 14:47:57
 

not in the rest of the world

 Apples and Oranges.  In countries where criminals have ample access to firearms, like Mexico, or Columbia, there is more crime in areas where citizens are not able to arm themselves.  

 This is why private security contracts are so lucrative in those locations.
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Reply #33 - Yesterday at 15:58:07
 
thumperclone wrote on Yesterday at 14:30:38:
   Yet they refuse,
despite the absolute proof,
Less Guns = MORE CRIME

not in the rest of the world


The rest of the world is growing into adults. It's the US that has the teenage cowboy/Rambo/John Wick fantasies. The rest of the world treats those movies like what they are: adult cartoons.


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Reply #34 - Yesterday at 16:55:52
 
WWW.GUNRACK.CO.NZ HOW TO APPLY FOR A PISTL LICENCE
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Reply #35 - Yesterday at 17:49:05
 
jcstokes wrote on Yesterday at 16:55:52:
WWW.GUNRACK.CO.NZ HOW TO APPLY FOR A PISTL LICENCE


t is possible to attend a training course at a pistol range in New Zealand without first having a firearms licence (under strict supervision), but many clubs require that you have at least begun the process towards getting your licence. It is also a police requirement that, after 3 visits as a visitor, you must become a financial member of the club in order to progress your training.
Basic firearms licence
If you don’t have a basic sporting (A Category) licence, you will need to follow the following steps to get one:
     •      Attend a firearms safety course (generally one or two evenings)
     •      Sit a test on the information you have learned at the course (And pass of course)
     •      Pay an application fee (paid at an NZ post shop)
     •      Complete an application form from your local arms office (This application will require you to provide details of at least two character references)
     •      Install security measures such as a safe / strong room
     •      A police vetting officer will then visit you and your chosen character referees to discuss the reasons you would like to own firearms, ensure you are a person of good character, and check your security measures are appropriate
     •      If all goes well, you should receive your licence in the mail.
Once you have your licence, endorsements such as the “B” endorsement for pistol shooting can be added to your licence. Or you can apply for endorsements at the same time as you apply for your licence.

Applying for your B Endorsement
In order to apply for your “B” Endorsement you will need to follow the steps listed below:
     •      Join a pistol club, attend and complete their training programme (which should comprise of  at least 12 days supervised training and lessons)
     •      Join Pistol New Zealand
     •      Complete a club range officer examination
     •      Complete a 6 month probation period with the club
     •      Apply to the club to get permission to apply for your endorsement (the club must deem you as a safe and competent shooter)
     •      Visit your Arms officer and get a form (POL67F), or download from the police website (you will need to get it witnessed by a police officer though)
     •      Provide your POL67F to your club who will complete their section and send it to Pistol NZ
     •      Pistol NZ will then complete their section and forward it onto the arms office [Editor’s Note: I am in the process of applying for my pistol licence, and the AO suggested that PNZ might mail the form back to me, and I could electronically submit back to the AO (i.e. via scan/email)]
     •      You will also need to pay an application fee, again via NZ Post
     •      You should then expect a visit from a police vetting officer to discuss the reasons why you would like to shoot pistols, inspect your security (you must have a “B” endorsed safe, not your basic “A cat” safe as there are much more stringent measures set on safes for endorsed firearms which can be found on the police website)
     •      The vetting officer will also contact at least two referees again. Generally these referees will be people who have a reasonable knowledge and understanding of your shooting activities, rather than just character references
     •      All going well you should then receive your new licence with relevant endorsements in the mail
Once you have your endorsed licence you may begin looking to purchase a pistol. Hopefully during your training period you will have had the opportunity to shoot a variety of pistols and types of events, and you may have established an understanding of what you want.

Acquiring a pistol
Once you have decided on a pistol and a place you are purchasing it from, you need to talk with your club and get an Application for a Permit to Procure “Pinky” form which will be signed off by a member of the club executive, authorising you to apply for a Permit to Procure. You take this form with you to your Arms Office and you will be issued two copies of a POL67C Permit to Procure form.
Once you have this Permit to Procure you take it with you to the person or store you are procuring the pistol from, and they will complete their section on the forms. You then take the completed forms and the pistol to your Arms Office who will inspect the pistol to ensure it is the same as the one originally applied for. They will keep a copy of the form so it can be entered in their records and you will be allowed to take the pistol, and your copy of the permit for your records.

Why is it so much effort?
I know that in reading this, it sounds like a long-winded process. To be honest, it is. I would estimate it taking about a year (or longer depending on circumstances) to fully complete the process. There is a reasonable amount of start-up and ongoing costs associated with owning pistols to be aware of (Application fees, Pistol Club joining fees, annual Pistol Club fees, Pistol NZ Fees, not to mention cost of firearms, ammo and equipment). However, after completing the process, I can understand why it is set up this way.
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Reply #36 - Yesterday at 21:49:58
 
Needles wrote on Yesterday at 15:58:07:
not in the rest of the world


Because they are
  Ultra Liberals,
who do NOT BELIEVE
  IN FREEDOM !!!


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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #37 - Today at 04:35:42
 
MnSpring wrote on Yesterday at 21:49:58:
Needles wrote on Yesterday at 15:58:07:
not in the rest of the world


Because they are
  Ultra Liberals,
who do NOT BELIEVE
  IN FREEDOM !!!




or they're not paranoid?
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Reply #38 - Today at 05:21:59
 
If American slaves had access to guns, there would have been no need for a civil war.
Prove me wrong.
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Reply #39 - Today at 08:43:42
 
WebsterMark wrote on Today at 05:21:59:
If American slaves had access to guns, there would have been no need for a civil war.
Prove me wrong.

Good point.
Now that you mention it, I wonder why they didn't just murder them. If there's 20 slaves and the owners, and a few foremen types, surely they could have gotten the jump on Someone and had a gun. Then head off to the next plantation and free them, get the guns,,
Did any of them ever try that?
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