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Reply #195 - 12/18/25 at 16:07:13
 

I believe the jobs in question are jobs with the federal government, or federal contractors, mainly, with other employers being on that list voluntarily, were they not? So, MAGATs were willing to LIE to get those jobs with the feds that they say no one needed anyway?

 I would say that's a pretty accurate assessment.

 The Covid mandates were excessive, but nobody was FORCED to fake vaccination records, especially for children.
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Reply #196 - 12/18/25 at 17:10:43
 
Eegore wrote on 12/18/25 at 16:07:13:
"... nobody was FORCED to fake vaccination records ..."  


Correct !
No one was FORCED,
to fake vaccination records.

They were FORCED to LIE,
       to get a job
(if they wanted that one)
by many entries hiring.
By ether, get the jab, or LIE.

(Unless you were one of the VERY FEW)

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #197 - 12/18/25 at 17:37:52
 
Correct !
No one was FORCED,
to fake vaccination records.

They were FORCED to LIE,
      to get a job
(if they wanted that one)
by many entries hiring.
By ether, get the jab, or LIE.


 They were not FORCED, they wanted the job and chose to LIE.  

 This is like saying I was FORCED to buy clean urine to get the job I wanted.  It's the Government's fault I was FORCED to LIE to get the truck driving job I wanted.  The guy selling clean urine had to do it, because the Government FORCED me to LIE.

 Not one parent was FORCED to LIE about their kids vaccination so the kid could get a job they wanted.  The surgeon broke the law, specifically by creating an avenue to LIE to the community about vaccination status.  He gave parents the freedom to choose to LIE, and removed everyone else's freedom to choose if their kid is exposed to an unvaccinated disease carrier.

 No amount of people lying to get a job makes the surgeon less liable for his actions.  He committed multiple crimes and should be charged.  Billy breaking two windows does not mean Bobby gets a free pass.
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Reply #198 - 12/19/25 at 06:27:51
 
Absolutely nothing to do with, "Billy and Bobby"

In fact I Remember someone stating if one wants, 'that', Job and not take the Jab, all they have to do is fill out the form that says they have a religious belief.  

And yes, one could NOT choose to lie, therefor they could NOT get that Job. Thus, if they wanted that JOB, they were FORCED to lie.

And again, a doctor, lying about giving the jab, should be punished.

NOT, a honest Citizen who wants,
and qualifier's for a JOB,
be forced to take the jab.


"... FORCED to buy clean urine to get the job I wanted. ..."


Been happening for a VERY LONG time.

The long haul truck driver,
who KILLED PEOPLE,
who could NOT read English,
who got his CDL in Calf.

Should he, or the entity that gave him the License be punished ?

He was NOT forced to lie,
it was someone else that lied.

Now it is your OPINION, some, companies required the jab, or a religion belief, or a proof of a disability. Is not, forcing someone, (if they did not do/qualify), to lie about one of the three things required to do that job.

It is my opinion, some companies required the jab, or a religion belief, or a proof of a disability. Is forcing someone,  (if they did not do/qualify), to lie about one of the three things required to do that job.






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Reply #199 - 12/19/25 at 07:28:13
 
 This post is an OPINION.

Absolutely nothing to do with, "Billy and Bobby"  This is your OPINION.

 My OPINION is that it does when the topic of a surgeon being held accountable for faking medical records is compared to, by using the terms "Just like" for the following:

Just like someone should not KILL another person, for parking in the wrong spot.
Just like a group of people should not STEAL BILLIONS from tax payers.
Just like people should not SNEAK into this Nation.
Just like people  should not LIE.
And On and On and On.


 It is not "Just like" any of that in my OPINION.  Billy breaking two windows has nothing to do with Bobby breaking one window.  This is my OPINION.




The long haul truck driver,
who KILLED PEOPLE,
who could NOT read English,
who got his CDL in Calf.

Should he, or the entity that gave him the License be punished ?

He was NOT forced to lie,
it was someone else that lied.


 This is your OPINION.  My OPINION is yes, if one falsifies documents they should be charged for it.  If the driver was unaware it is my OPINION that he should not be charged for the crime another human committed.  If he was aware, it is my OPINION that he does get charged.  I do not think anyone was FORCED to LIE in that situation.  They chose to LIE to get what they WANT - this is my OPINION.  This post is an OPINION.

  The previous sentence indicates this post is an OPINION.


It is my opinion, some companies required the jab, or a religion belief, or a proof of a disability. Is forcing someone,  (if they did not do/qualify), to lie about one of the three things required to do that job.

 It is my OPINION that this is similar to a human saying they are FORCED to LIE about their drug use, age, language barriers etc. to get the job they want.  The job FORCED them to LIE to get the job they WANT.  Right?

 Really no different than Child Protective Services FORCED him to LIE about sexual abuse of his child so he could keep the child he wanted.  His options were "Yes" I rape my child, or "No" I do not.  So, to keep the child he wants he was FORCED to LIE by the legal system.  He didn't "choose" to lie?
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"In 2020 almost all of voter fraud was by Trump supporters, proven in court. There was almost none by the dems. There was one woman in Texas who was told she could register and vote and when she did so arrested her. But we had Trumpies voting their dead spouses ballots ( Nevada) killed their spouse and voted their ballot for Trump ( Colorado) The wife of a guy running in Ohio was caught stuffing ballot boxes for her GOP spouse and Trump. There was the multiple people in Pennsylvania who tried to pretend they were their dead parents or friends. There was the Trumpies in Georgia who got into the tallying machines to change votes. There were Trump cabinet members who voted in two different places in 2 different states.

Sorry the opposite has been alleged but not proven." Quora






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